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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel iffy on this. I loved the original Karate Kid growing up, but absolutely hated the 2010 remake. Partly because I feel like it is following the trend of just lumping every Asian character into a generic "Kung Fu Guy" stereotype with no room for nuance.

Like, in the original, Mr. Miyagi's backstory as a Japanese war veteran was pretty significant to his character, and karate being a specifically Japanese fighting style made sense for him to teach.

Not to say you have to be Japanese to learn karate, but that wasn't even the premise in the 2010 movie, where Mr. Miyagi was swapped out for the Chinese Mr. Han, and the discipline being learned is kung fu, not karate. But that doesn't matter, does it? Because as far as the white people in the audience are concerned, there's basically no difference. Asian is Asian, right?

(And being a movie made in cooperation with China Film Group, which is a propaganda arm of the Chinese government, they definitely couldn't have Mr. Han also be a war veteran who regretted his years of service, because who could ever regret fighting for glorious communism?)

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never saw the Jaden smith film, but that’s a bad joke right? That it’s kung fu, not karate? How did they even think it appropriate to still call it karate??

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw the Jaden Smith film and it's......okay. But yeah....it's not karate. It's kung fu. They even say that in the movie.

Yet they still called it The Karate Kid.

[–] canthidium@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was fine but as an Asian American, the name bothered me. I dunno why they didn't just call it "The Kung Fu Kid" and market it as a spiritual successor.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was going to write this almost verbatim in my comment above but cut it for length. 100% agree.

[–] canthidium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I love that we're getting all this Asian cinema nowadays, but there's still more to do. Like you said, lumping all Asians together still. And even still, a lot is all about being Asian. Say what you will about the Fast and Furious movies, but the character of Han is what we need more of. A character that just happens to be Asian, and his whole personality isn't just "Asian dude". He's just a guy, and that's awesome.

[–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is explicitly kung fu. They say as much in the film.

They just called it The Karate Kid for brand recognition. It's not like they haven't abused the name before.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It is such a bad movie, too. Like, if they're going to do that, you'd think it would be a great film, but nooooooo.