Memes

It's a tanky account. I've learned that they aren't worth engaging. Just a bunch of authoritarians and agitators.

You also lamented about being banned on lemmy.ml and yet, here you are.

We're talking about the German parties Die Grünen (Greens) and SPD (Social Democratic Party of Germany), so, not sure why an American anti-communist liberal has the urge to vomit out their uninformed bullshit, only to append it with some derogatory drivel about "tankies" "insulting people" and "making stuff up". If I wouldn't know any better, and I don't, I'd conclude that you are a first grade idiot.

But alas, the benefit of the doubt: Are you actually interested in learning or are you just venting? If you're interested to learn how the German Greens are imperialist, pro genocide and anti-welfare state I might invest the time to give you a more serious answer. But right now, my impression is, that you only want your prejudices reinforced and spew some hate towards an outgroup you struggle to understand.

E: @Enkrod@feddit.org this is kinda an answer to you, although, you ain't the one stating the confusion. A bit of a mix up, content is relevant anyway, so...

Yes, I understand your confusion. See, I find this confusing: in the earlier comment you proclaimed

I've never been shy about where I stand politically. I'm a green progressive social democrat

Which suggests you have an understanding of political terms or at least the reality of the politics you identify with. But that just might be partially my fault, as in your profile you're also sharing coordinates of a political compass. From that I conclude that you did their questionnaire and went "ah, so that's where I'm at".

The political compass is unscientific and trash in general. It's trying to squeeze their limited understanding of society into these neat and simple axis. I strongly suggest not to rely on this stuff, especially not to proclaim political affiliation or base voting decisions on what it says.

But that's just regarding the test. The main issue is, that this political identity does not overlap very much with how parties, generally described as Social Democrats or Greens, act in real world politics. It's an idealistic, moralistic approach, where one relies not on what actually happens in the real world and through that align their political identity accordingly, but based on an idea, of what these parties supposedly stand for.

That's why I listed all these things, because these are the kind of politics SPD and Grüne are facilitating and implement in reality. They practically do far right Realpolitik. Baerbock (Grüne) said that hospitals can lose their protected status (in reference to Gaza), the Grüne supports xenophobic policies and also the largest rearmament of the German state since WWII. SPD just helped to deconstruct the 8 hour workday (which workers bloodily have fought for against the capitalist class) and facilitates the destruction of the social welfare and safety net, while also planning for war (SPD chancellor Scholz announced the Zeitenwende) and supplying Israel with weaponry and supports US wars by allowing the use of US bases on German territory. Both of these parties help implement European anti-migrant and surveillance policies. Just a few examples. This things aren't green or social and a lot of these things are not supported by their voters, so it's questionable to even call it democratic, solely based on the option to vote for or against their flavor of capitalist management every couple of years.

These parties act not in the interest of the people and according to their own advertised ideals, but as nuances of the capitalist class. Any concessions granted to the working class only happen through immense pressure or to pacify the upset masses. Anytime they can get away with working against the common people, they will. They protect the status quo of a society based on class, there's nothing progressive about it.

Well. ya, also what the other people in this thread said, especially RiverRock's longer remarks on Idealism and Materialism.