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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck Paris. The only way to buy a metro ticket is to download an app. Fair enough. But, after downloading the app it tells you to install another app!

oh? I was in paris recently and used only one app (https://www.iledefrance-mobilites.fr/en), and even that seemed optional. I got the paper card from a ticket machine in a subway station and used the app to top-up the card, although could've also done that from the machine that sold me the card.

anyone know what two apps they're talking about? I'm on iOS, is it different on android?

[–] troglodyte_mignon@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, the author misunderstood something, you definitely don’t need an app. I regularly buy tickets, and I’ve never even installed the bloody app. The two-ticket system is annoying, though, and it’s the kind of mistake a tourist could easily make in good faith. (Taking the tram with a metro ticket, for example.)

Trains and metro travel require separate tickets at different prices. You can't easily hop from one to another.

... Ah wait, I thought they were talking about the metro or bus+tram tickets, but they seem to be talking about the RER tickets instead ? That’s another issue.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

Aren't they talking about the Transilien trains? Whatever it's a Paris fail having so many routes on different tickets.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

while i was in paris the RER tickets had been folded into the metro tickets but i think that’s more recent. i was there in april

[–] troglodyte_mignon@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh you’re right, I forgot that they changed the system for the RER. You used to be able to access the RER with a “normal” metro ticket as long as you stayed inside Paris, but for the suburbs you had to buy a ”destination” ticket which costed more or less depending on the length of your trip. I wasn’t certain whether that system had completely disappeared.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 1 day ago

to be fair, i did stay within central paris. I'd heard the system had been updated as I described and I didn't see anywhere to buy RER tickets but you're right to call me out, i did post this without double checking :)

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think a separate app used to replace the paper card on NFC -enabled phones but you still needed the app you used to top up even though in that case you are topping up the phone, not a paper card.

https://www.seat61.com/changing-stations-in-paris.htm#how-to-buy-metro-tickets explains the current situation.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ah, you’re right. on my iphone it would install the digital card to apple wallet, however you can also top up the card (or create one) from the apple wallet app with native integration, so still 1 app on ios. i guess android wallet doesn’t have this yet, that’s too bad

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh it does and it's now one app on Android too, as you can read on seat 61. I've no idea why Paris made it more complicated before.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’ve no idea why Paris made it more complicated before.

when is before? this blog post is from 5 days ago

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't remember. Less than a year ago, if the blog post is accurate about its scope. It's also likely that there is outdated instructions still online and it's possible to install the old compatibility app unnecessarily.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 1 points 2 days ago

yeah for sure, the site you posted recommends a different app than the one i used so they might serve slightly different but overlapping functions