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[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 69 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

Ugh, clovers. Giving me trauma to living in San Jose and the clover that merges 101 and 880.

The two most congested and largest freeways. Let's have all the traffic entering have to fight with all the traffic exiting in about 100 ft of road.

You'd literally have people blocking the far left lanes and essentially making "right turns" across the all lanes. I hated them at first. But, honestly, you learn quickly that it's just all lanes of traffic fighting and that's just one method of getting through. It's not even faster because all lanes are just blocked at that point.

Fuck cars. But clover interchanges are a special kind of stupid.

Worst part. I took the Cal train to SF to avoid traffic. But this was a road block between my house and the train station. It was anywhere from 30-60 minutes of driving in rush hour. It was a 5 minute drive when there was no traffic at night.

Just absolute insanity.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, why are clovers so wide-spread over there? We have almost none here.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Because we built the highways in one shot in the 50s and have just now started questioning if there are better designs

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 13 hours ago

Clovers work well if there's like 3 cars using it at any given point in time.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Texas had to go one better – inverted cloverleafs (stack interchanges) complete with service (frontage) roads

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Dude, I have driven through Texas. I forgot about those. It's like someone created a merge and thought "who should yield? Eh, we'll never have enough cars for that to matter."

City I used to fly into for work eventually rebuilt an intire intersection (pretty major one for the area) to remove it. Had to be a real bitch to do. It was a huge upgrade.

Wasn't a giant concrete monstrosity, which I'd imagine would be worse.

[–] vladmech@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

Hah yeah we do this going from 101 to 880 north pretty often and it’s wild how much time it can shave. That entire interchange is the worst designed I’ve seen.