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This post is full of spoilers about the 2003 reimagined series.

Throughout the series, a common trope is finding out that a character has secretly been a Cylon the entire time. Most of the time, these secret Cylons are not even aware that they are Cylons. They are under the impression that they are actually a human.

I would argue that every character we meet (except for the few "angels") are actually Cylons. We literally never meet a real human in this series.

The rough chain of events were as follows:

  1. Humans created Cylons
  2. Humans/Cylons did not get along
  3. Cylons moved away
  4. Cylons developed their own culture in isolation
  5. Cylons forgot that they were robots and began to view themselves as true biological human beings
  6. Cylons (who believed themselves to actually be humans) created Cylons

And thus becomes a cycle. In each iteration of this loop, these "humans" create Cylons, and from their own perspective, they are inventing the concept of Cylons for the first time. But in reality, each of these loops is just the previous generation of Cylons creating the next generation of Cylons.

We spend the entire series following a group of individuals who we assume are humans. And these individuals themselves even assume they are humans as well. But unbeknownst to them, they are actually Cylons who have just spent so long in isolation that they started to believe they were the true human race.

But true humans are a thing of the past. They are likely living in peace in some distant galaxy after the first generation of Cylons had fled. We never see a real human.

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[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Humanoid Cylons are physiologically indistinguishable from humans. Remember how much time/effort was put into developing the "Cylon detector" blood test, and how they ended up determining that the technology wasn't effective and that it was impossible to tell them apart? I take it that a surgeon could operate on a humanoid Cylon without knowing it was not human at all.

[–] Brgor@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Baltar's Cylon detector did actually work through, so there is some difference.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Did it though?

Or was he bullshitting the whole time? Did it catch Colonel Tigh or Chief Tyrol? (Any of the cylons discovered toward the end of the series).

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 2 points 1 hour ago

Out of all the dozen or so individuals who were confirmed to be Cylons by the end of the series, the only individual who was detected by the Cylon detector was Boomer. That is a pretty awful accuracy rate, and could possibly have just mistakenly flagged the wrong sample as a Cylon. It may have been a total fluke that the one sample that it detected was someone who did turn out to actually be a Cylon.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, if that's the case then why does anybody even care?

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's the fundamental flaw in the show.

If there's no difference, then who the fuck cares.

Also, you can program deep sleeper agents to activate and sabotage the ships

But also cylons aren't bad guys, they can help the humans.

Also, cylons have super powers and can break solid steel.

Also, cylons are immortal and can resurrect.

Also, there's absolutely no hardware for any of this.

The whole show makes no sense if you look at it too close.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

The whole show makes no sense if you look at it too close.

100%. Just like the show "Lost", they didn't really know what the end was going to be when they started the show. Admittedly, Lost was much worse, often the writers had no idea what would happen 3 episodes ahead. I think on Galactic they at least had season outlines (but no idea what would happen in the next season).