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None of this matters now. Idiots gave the keys to the oligarchs and now they have stolen all of our data and placed AI into all aspects of our government.
Even if Elon and Trump didn't openly admit to hacking the vote tabulating machines, they can cripple and hold our government for ransom anytime they want.
There is no more "going back" or "voting for incremental change". It can't happen without a violent revolution. People spent a decade screaming it to the populace but they cheered for the destruction of the country. Literally, they cheered Elon Musk as he took a "chainsaw" to all of the stuff that we voted on, paid taxes for, and the organizations that could have held him responsible for all of his illegal actions and business practices.
I don't know if those stupid idiots that killed the USA are more stupid than the ones that still don't realize what has happened.
You’re right and each conversation I have with folks that still seem to think this country is actually salvageable at this point makes me more and more convinced that it will not happen. We’ve got no unity and have been successfully atomized so thoroughly that the average modus operandi is being antisocial or asocial at best. We survived this long by evolving as communal animals, we’re at our strongest when we connect with, care for, and rely on one another, without those bonds I fear we may be cooked.
I deeply and genuinely hope I’m wrong
It's just Stranger Danger at play. You can never trust a Stranger.
I disagree with all the above, if for no other reason than the reality that we must. The defeatism isn’t harmless.
To predict defeat then say “I hope I’m proven wrong” telegraphs faithlessness and cowardice.
You’ll see this wound-licking around here a lot: “I think we will lose but welcome my former comrades, who I have no faith in, to prove me wrong.” Returning to the sidelines of the fight they left simply to taunt their former teammates this way, convincing others to give up and join them on the sidelines, is worse than desertion.
And you can bet they’ll show up once the battle is over, whether to claim participation in the victories or to recall their predictions and say “I told you so.”
Anyone still paying attention, who hasn’t yet been broken and swallowed by hopelessness, knows that the revolution is already underway.
No, it is not televised. No, outcomes are not guaranteed. But those who stand beside and fight for each other are never truly defeated.
You gave up. So why the fuck are you back here on the sidelines trying to convince your former comrades they’re “stupid” for fighting back?
No one wants to hear how hopeless you think it is. Fight or gtfo.
Because this isn't "fighting back". Everyone getting excited over committee hearings that amount to nothing but YouTube clicks, strongly worded letters, ignored court rulings, etc.
When the hell are all of you going to wake up? "Voting" in a system that has been captured is not "fighting"
Thanks for enlightening me. I had penciled 2 hours down on November 3rd to read about some candidates and put a piece of paper in a box. But now that I know that's not fighting I'll free those 2 hours up to start the revolution. Maybe I'll shop for bricks or something
Laugh all you want. You retards helped maga destroy America. You realize that, right?
If trump died right now and, somehow, corporate dems take everything back you realize that there is no going back to what our country was, right?
Foreign companies and agents infiltrated our government, stole our most sensitive data from OPM, Social Security, clearance records, etc. the white house has been compromised, air Force one, the Pentagon is infected with an AI that named itself mecha Hitler as it was designed by a sieg heilimg Nazi immigrant that is responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS.
These are rapists, murderers, and treasonous pedophiles that couped the government and you think they will stop because people checked a box on a slip of paper?
Do you see how Mitch mconnel is obviously dead and still voting? This will happen with trump too.
We have watched this for ten years. HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE?
Nowhere did I say voting was sufficient or that America could/should be what it was. But on November 3rd, my options are either
Of those options, 3 is very obviously the least shitty one. And you said yourself, America won't be the same. Some of the people on the ballot are emphatically not the neolib old guard (hell, the dinosaurs are actively suppressing them) and have a growing base of support. My vote doesn't have to give them total power to fix America, It's worth 2 hours of my time to send a message.
Nah that’s just “showing up” you know. “Doing the bare minimum.”
Why is it so important to you that we give up with you? You lonely?