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A woman claimed music exec "sexually abused, forcibly touched, and subjected [her] to sexual harassment and retaliation." Iovine says that "no one has ever made a claim like this"

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[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad you're not on the jury

[–] stifle867@programming.dev -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? I haven't reached any conclusions either way because I haven't heard the facts yet. I have an open mind towards all possibilities. Isn't that what you would be looking for on a jury?

[–] toastus@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In your original post you called it a

suspicious defence.

To me (and seemingly to others) it is weird that you interpret anything at all in this blanket response by some spokesperson.

I know nothing about this Iovine guy.
If he did it he should be punished, if he didn't he should be exonerated.
But this spokespersons PR statement doesn't make him any more or less suspicious to me and I find it kind of weird that it would for anyone.

Btw I am not one of the people that downvoted you, I'm just trying to clear up possible confusion.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks for attempting to clear it up. I guess it's up to everyone's individual interpretation but to me, sometimes, the things someone doesn't say are just as important as the things they do say. These are the things you pay a PR agency to think about. I know that's reading a lot into it and again, I'm not saying that's enough to make a verdict. It's just the very slightest of evidence that would make me suspicious of someone.

Even considering that it's a blanket response, it's not a typical blanket response. Normally it's either a denial or a no comment. This comment leaves open the interpretation that he did do it, and he does know about it, just that it's the first time he's heard a complaint about it. It is an interpretation, not saying it's the correct interpretation. Just enough for a suspicion.

Like you, I've never heard anything about this guy before. I don't have any strong opinions one way or the other. All I'm saying is if someone accuses you of stealing from the cookie jar and the reply is "well this is the first time I'm hearing this come from you", it's at least an odd reply.

Appreciate you comprehending and replying in good faith. Open to any intellectual discussion about this.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Having read your whole comment here, and the rest of the thread, I'm also glad you aren't on the jury.