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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

my air and weather shouldn’t have to suffer so you can keep your “small town lifestyle”, fuck your luxury bullshit founded on the externality of my life.

I have no idea what image you have of these smaller airports supporting smaller cities and their surrounding rural populous, but I assure you most are far away from "luxury". Lets take one small city in the middle of Kansas called Salina. Its a city of 47,000 people. The median income is $61,783 and the per capita income of Salina is $34,886 and has a 13% poverty rate. The next closest airport to Salina is 80 miles away. They're not living there just to keep their "small town lifestyle". Its where they grow the food we both eat.

It has a total of 4 small plane flights a day into its airport:

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Salina is also a major agricultural hub supporting 650 farms for total of over 360,000 acres growing grains and livestock.

I don’t mind green energy powered trains. That’s cheap, it doesn’t intrude on my life any, and gets you where you’re going fast clean safe. I’m just against flying them out on a jet.

Fast rail service versus flying? Have you ever been on a long haul Amtrak passenger rail train? Amtrak is not fast. Salina doesn't have an Amtrak station. The closest one is 90 miles away in Newton Kansas. An Amtrak train trip form Newton Kansas to Chicago takes 12 to 14 hours and the service can experience delays making it even longer. A flight (1 of only 4 flights they have) from Selina to Chicago takes 2 hours and 5 minutes.

I’m sorry but I’m sick of subsidizing these obscenely decadent parasites who would probably kill me and mount my blue stained scalp on their wall.

I bet the people of Salina would laugh their asses off at you considering them decadent parasites. You're happy to eat the food they produce, but you'd put their their 4 flights a day into their city at risk so you personally could save $50 on a ticket to Chicago by skiplagging?

[–] nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I have been on Amtrak trains. They're fine. The drinks are bottom shelf and overpriced, the cocktails are a little basic, the seats don't all recline, but they're fine.

Another advantage: you can move agricultural products on train! Livestock, even! Sounds like a pretty good case for having trains, and Amtrak uses the same rail standards as freight, not that Amtrak is the only option for having a train.

Why do they have an airport but no train station? Train stations can be pretty minimal. They're not hard to build. Maybe they should get on that. Especially if they're so poor. Trains really seem like the way to go. This is a bizzaire state of affairs to defend.

I'm vegan and mostly eat fruit recently BTW. I probably don't eat anything from there, and I paid for it if I did. Those vile chuds did not compensate me for the ecological damage of their bizzaire transportation decisions.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago) (1 children)

So the thing about trains is they need tracks. Building tracks involves a lot of carbon output. You need to make steel, you need concrete, you need lumber, you need gravel. You need to ship all of these things to wherever you want to build the tracks. You need to buy the land that you’re going to build the tracks on. If you want high speed rail, the tracks have to be very straight and have very specific routes. If you want to electrify the train, you need even more metal for wires.

All that infrastructure, versus just an airport. It would take a lot of math to convince me one is better than the other, here. Once we have electric planes (the tech is mature, you can ride zero emissions planes in Canada right now, we’re just waiting on FAA approval in the USA), I think the balance will be clearly in their favor.

I love trains, but I think there’s room for both trains and planes in an environmentalist future.

[–] nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au 1 points 14 minutes ago

Just as soon as we get those carbon capture factories working!