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Father of USS Lincoln sailor taken into ICE detention while son deployed in Middle East
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2026
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The US military is ordered to do this?
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents take an official oath of office to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, just like all other federal civil service and law enforcement personnel.
Thank you, I didn't know that! A civil servants, eh? Damn there are a lot of people who think what is going on is fine, actually 😬
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents take an official oath of office to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, just like all other federal civil service and law enforcement personnel.
You were just talking about ICE.
Okay Grandpa, time to get you to bed.
Yes, I said the US military protects ICE. But the thread you are replying to is about the enlistment oath for the military. Is ICE military?
So: if the US Military protects ICE, and ICE is following illegal orders, that would mean the military is being ordered to protect criminals doing crimes, which would therefore be an illegal order.
I was concerned this is how my question would be interpreted which is why I specified:
My question was what illegal orders have the military been given. I wasn't aware that they had been given an order to protect ICE directly. Based on the other replies it doesn't seem like they have or at least that it hasn't been made public. However, because people have been kind enough to explain what they mean to me I understand that they mean two separate things:
The US military has been given illegal orders such as firing on disabled ships.
ICE also swears an oath to "will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
I don't think that I would have made the jump that ICE has a duty to disobey illegal orders (because that's from the military legal code and ICE isn't subject to that) but my opinion doesn't matter in the slightest and I'm just happy to have a better understanding of how people view this.