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The amount of people who don't travel rules is crazy. Like I get it. But how can you be so confidentially incorrect. This isn't a travel
Fr, when "well ackshully 🤓" goes wrong
r/confidentlyincorrect
I love seeing tiktoks and reels with plays like this and reading through all the old heads comments acting like they “know what a travel is”
Fuckin KG getting it wrong and arguing about it through a segment with Candace Parker blew me away.
A jump stop, pump-fake, and step through was literally the first 'move' ever taught to me in elementary ball back in 1998.
I thought maybe he traveled at 0:12 on the shot clock but I think it's OK to take the multiple steps as he hasn't terminated he legal dribble and isn't gathering. It looks like the gather dribble into a step-back but he doesn't actually gather. At best perhaps a carry if he moves his hand under the ball during the hesi but it's hard to see from this angle.
Maybe people don’t know travel rules because only in the NBA Is this not a travel.
Maybe those other leagues should learn the rules
Kawhi literally learned this move from the WNBA lol
What level are you playing on? If you’re paying money please get a refund, because they’re clearly teaching the sport wrong.
lol. Even in a thread about people being confidently incorrect you took it the extra mile.
Maybe it isn't technically a travel, but it was called like a travel until recently, for sure it was called a travel in the 90s.
Because the rules used to be different
Yeah at the very least the fact that he's carrying the ball multiple times on the hesitation dribble used to be a travel. Now it's just part of a "bag"
Exactly. Back in the day, if you even spun the pivot foot too much, it’d be a travel. It’s gotten looser and looser as the game has evolved. Whether that’s a good or a bad thing, idk. I’m just saying that when I was a kid learning to play in the ‘90s from guys that learned to play in the ‘50s to ‘80s, that’s how I was taught.
Ditto for palming the ball. Allen Iverson and everyone after him wouldn’t have gotten away with most of their crossovers and hesi moves pre-‘90s. That’s a big part of why we think the old clips from the ‘50s and ‘60s look so goofy — they had much stricter enforcement of stricter rules.
The rules were not different in the 3-point arc era of basketball. There was a video someone posted a while ago where someone compiled footage dating back to Jordan in the 80s, where the pivot foot was lifted in this exact same manner.
The other thing that confuses people is that, in a triple threat position, if you start dribbling the ball, you actually can't lift your pivot foot before initiating your dribble. So folks are remembering the rule about not lifting the pivot foot, but applying it to the wrong basketball action.
If you lift the pivot foot before you start your dribble, it's a travel. But if you shoot or pass instead, it's not, as long as you do so before your pivot foot returns to the ground.