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Defeatism. Defending public spaces is important
What is defeatism? Making sure headline-only readers have an accurate understanding of what has happened?
FLORIDA BANS FLOCK CAMERAS ~practically nowhere~
No, that is untrue. I hate this kind of defeatism.
It is true by a simple count of cameras, most in Florida remain. But that is not the right metric, unless you planned a tour of every Lowes and Home Depot and w/e in the state. Getting them off the state highway system is a big deal. And more and more cities are starting to terminate contracts too.
Just because the whole problem isn't solved in a single stroke, does NOT mean we should minimize how important each step is.
Not to split hairs, but I'm more confused than anything:
The last time, I was in Florida, I needed to buy some special toll card to use the "highways". When I asked why, I was told that the U.S. Highways were free to use but their coverage was limited, so everyone use the toll-based " private" highways.
So, being the pessimist that I am, I assume they're removing flock from the (few) u.s. highways but not from the private (often used) toll roads, no?
Can only speak for my area. (edit, not FL). We do have some toll highways, but it's very small as a % of the total hw system. So it's not even close to the majority of what ppl use. They do exist, however. All the ones I know about are not "private", tho. They are owned and maintained by a commission of elected public officials who collects the tolls and allocate the funding to maintain the road. Ofc there are probably contracts to private companies for maintenance. But the road itself is not owned by a private co.
Yes. But I don't have to go to Home Depot or Lowes or w/e. Contrast, it is effectively impossible to avoid the Flock network on public roads. They capture cars and bikes and pedestrians.
So even if most of the cameras remain by simple count, it is still a very big deal to get them off public highways. And the more cities who join, the better that will be too.
Are they allowed to point at roads of they're in private parking lot? That is unclear to me
Not sure, TBH. The ones in private lots near me seem pointed to surveil the lots, if I go by the de-flock map. But I would be surprised if a few didn't pick up short segments of the public roads sometimes.
So my guess is it happens, but it's still a big improvement on having that PLUS the public road network too.
Those little mobile sentry stations that record 360° seem intentionally placed in positions next to high volume public infrastructure. Honestly, there should be a law requiring them to shield lights and cameras from uncontracted property.
We had one locally installed in a lot between two apartments. Dude, that would have pissed me off having cameras and strobing lights straight outside my bedroom window.