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‘You Go To Hell!’: Trump Ends Convention With The Most Bizarre Pledge You'll Ever Hear
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I agree with everything you said except:
Because I support the Balkanization of U.S. Nothing good comes from the continued existence of the this country. Trump's rise to power isn't a fluke, it is merely the natural consequence of courting authoritarianism for the better part of a century.
Such an outcome would lead to a strong man consolidating power, but first would lead to warlords, oligarchs with their own bastions of power, security services left derelict after the collapse of government would turn to highway robbery, aforementioned warlordism, and organized crime.
Then you have what is left over of the military, and whomever consolidates that, is the new supreme leader.
We could talk all day about how it would play out under different scenarios, but the collapse of governments in the US would be a very very bad thing if we weren't organized to institute a better system. That system could even be broken up into several, countries.
Otherwise the new boss is at best the same as the old, and in all probability much worse, with a lot of pain and suffering before that happens. And when that strongman takes power as an autocrat, future autocrats only get worse.
Plato noticed every single republic follows the same formula from representative government through stages of oligarchic repression to "democracy," as defined by the ancient greeks up until like the 19th century when it became a positive buzzword rather than a strong man rallying the population to seize absolute power. Then the autocracy degrades in time through successive leaders and is overthrown and a republic re-instituted.
No republics have since broken with the formula even if they haven't run through the stages yet.
Yeah, an uncontrolled collapse could be catastrophic. That's an argument for building decentralized institutions capable of surviving a federal crisis, not necessarily an argument for preserving the existing federal state indefinitely.
I am not speaking of preserving this federal state, but a new federal state, in line with the constitution and all of it's amendments, which honestly is a decent framework and better than anything we could hope for if we started new at this point in time.
The feds have ursurped power year over year, they aren't supposed to be doing almost any of what they are doing according to the constitution, and all laws contrary to that are illegal and unefnforceable, according to that highest law.
The feds are supposed to handle international relations, trade, and interstate commerce. But they are forbidden from enacting barriers to trade within the states or movements of people. That's about it.
The States obviously need their own restorations to their constitutions and that of the United States.
Plus practically, you won't get support for an overthrow and new system. You can get support for a restoration, which amounts to the same thing in most ways.
I recomend you look up the setting for the Shadowrun TTRPG. The federal government fracturing would result in megacorps taking control of various regions of the country very similar to the game, minus all the magic stuff
Well, what I really support is the Balkanization of the U.S. PLUS the complete and utter collapse of capitalism as a system. But that gets into a lot more of a nuanced discussion than I was prepared for.
But that game sounds sick, though.