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EV prices falling to 50K π« I'll keep my shitty diesel for now, I'm afraid.
Decent EV 3 years old 15 to 20k mileage with warranty run between 15 to 30k. Almost no maintenance and depending on the vehicle half to a tenth the price of gas. You can easily save 5k a year on maintenance and gas. Plus you aren't killing people with air pollution.
I don't use it that much to save those 5k.
Wait, easily save 5k/year? For how much annual mileage? I know for me with 11k miles annually, including service, the total annual cost is about β¬2k.
Gotta increase both the mileage and the price numbers to get something in the same class but as an EV. 36k EUR gets me in a 2023 EQE with 157k km. A6 and E-class are the same class of car (direct competitors) and EQE is supposed to be the electric E-Class. Using this one for the comparison because it's highly unpopular so about 20k cheaper than a similarly aged BMW i5 and Audi A6 E-tron hasn't been out long enough to get a 3 year old one anyway.
Now compare it to my 1800β¬ diesel A6 Allroad from 2007 with I don't care how many kilometers because the warranty is over anyway. How many years for that price difference to pay off? Maintenance and diesel have been about 3-4k a year for me, charging would be ~800 a year if I only ever charge at home and never on a public charger and get the official consumption figures. Puts me at roughly 2-3k saved per year on a 30k price difference, in a car that will depreciate more than 2-3k a year for the next 4-5 years. And I know that if you get sudden battery failure, Mercedes will tell you the battery warranty only covers "up to the value of the car", which is less than the battery costs at this point, so you have to put 10-20k up yourself. Suspect other manufacturers are going to claim similar bullshit.
And if you're going to ask why I'm only comparing to the same class: even significantly newer cars from cheaper manufacturers don't compare. Only recently tested a Volvo XC60, suspension was shit. A few years ago tested Hyundai Ioniq 5, suspension was utter shit. Rather be driving a 25 year old S-Class or A8 than a brand new Hyundai or Kia.
EVs will start making financial sense for us folks who know how to use a wrench when you can a used luxury one for 5k and know you can get a known good replacement battery for <2k and motor for ~500 AND can replace them at home.
2 year old Polestar is $25k.
I cannot afford it.
Yeah, its more ICE shitboxes for all I am afraid. Average car budget I know of around here is $5,000 to $10,000 CAD, no EVs in that range.
That's not what it says
Average EV price is closer to $55K
Same, gotta keep my paid off 2011 Silverado for now. At least I can use E85 in it π€·
What are you spending annually on the diesel again?
Costs suck everywhere, but with an electric itβs a lot more manageable.
I work from home an if I need to commute I do it by train. So, if nothing goes awfully wrong, I'd say about 1K in maintenance and probably another 2K at the pump (high estimate). It is a small (~80bhp) old diesel, pre-AdBlue, so it is very economical. I sometimes get 900Km from a 50 liter tank.
No LCD screens, no subscriptions, no tracking. Just a car that takes me to places. Is there an equivalent car in the market?
Used Fiat 500e
Not bad, a little bit short on range (320Km) but in the right direction. Thanks for the suggestion!
Itβs an older type of EV, early Nissan leaf tech, but with battery cooling so it ages a LOT better.
The Chevy volt (I think itβs called amperage overseas) is larger but is a series hybrid. Plug in for 40 miles on battery then the generator kicks in and itβs a regular hybrid. Enormous trunk. Bigger car though.
If you want something like that with a softer suspension and more grown-up feel, consider the Honda clarity plug in hybrid. They were great, my ex had one. They killed them because Honda had no idea how to market what puts a Camry to shame.
Right, because second-hand EVs have yet to be invented.
None that are under $10K so far. Issue here is that people just flat out don't have the money for these yet. Maybe soon.