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'Morale is at an all-time low': Ex-Googler writes scathing latter slamming layoffs and 'eroded' culture::An ex-Googler wrote a 1,500-word letter criticizing the firm and CEO Sundar Pichai's lack of "visionary leadership."

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[–] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 144 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

Sundar Pichai has got to be the worst CEO in the silicon valley period

Google has managed to produce next to nothing of value with a dreamteam of engineers the likes of which no one else had access to

From one uninspired leadership decision to the next they've just been sitting there bolstering what's already there while every once in a while adding a new product to the Google graveyard

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Google is one of the most engineer driven companies out there. Their engineers are simply massively overrated. A ton of leetcoder kiddies got into FAANG companies over the years and a lot of them are just plain shit as professional developers.

Edit: also the way they evaluate engineers drives them to create half-baked products that get abandoned. It's incredible how they still haven't figured out that people want stable, maintained products, not "innovation" that doesn't actually help anyone and never turns into a finished product.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their hiring process is the reason why leetcoder kiddies get in there in the first place. 3 seperate coding rounds with questions not even related to the domain that you need to solve in a timer of 45 mins.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep. And they also used to do the stupid brain teaser stuff back in the day. That's what happens when you hire out of touch PhDs to design your hiring process instead of people with real world experience.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah this one is on the business bros who networked their way through an mba without learning anything.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Nope, Google hired a bunch of PhDs to design their hiring process years ago.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This has long been my impression. It’s a plaything for the “elite” engineers aka former children of wealthy people who grew up with tutors but never developed as people.

IRTc innovation, I’ve also long felt this way. There are so many good products out there but most seem like the software equivalent of As Seen on TV plastic crap that solves some problem that nobody has.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As a counter-point, what new services or products have any of the FAANG companies released that the average person uses, over the last few years?

Big tech was built on a handful of runaway successes, and building on moonshot ideas, allowing engineers to work on "the next big thing" without fear of liability.

Now, if it doesn't work, you get laid off. At least if you worked for a startup, you'd get enough equity to make a ton of money if it works out...

Pichal is shit, but so are Zuck, Tim Cook, Andy Jassy, and the two at the helm at Netflix.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You mean MAANA? I genuinely don't know why Netflix is included, it should just be MAAA...

MAAA, the sound of a primal scream of agony. Fitting.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Also Microsoft should really be in there somewhere.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Facebook: messenger for kids, which is messenger but with good parental controls. Believe me as a parent I want more products to look at this.

Also Threads. Jury's still out if it wins but it's a good product.

Netflix buying the long tail of excellent old Android Indie Games to offer as a platform benefit is a fun idea, jury's still out on that one too.

But imho the one that's winning at product development isn't faang, it's Microsoft.

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Also Meta Horizon, which was a massive flop. And rebranding Oculus, tbf they are pushing innovation in the VR hardware space. But I don't want a whole load of Facebook controlled cameras in my house thank you.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 17 points 10 months ago

Yup, he's the absolute worst. I can't think of a single product that Google has even improved during his tenure as CEO... let alone a product that he successfully launched on his own. All he can do is make existing products more expensive.

Look at how he completely lost his shit when chatgpt was released - probably a huge part of the reason he lost it is cause he realized he'd have to actually do something useful instead of just squeezing more blood from the collective stone of all Google's existing products. His claim to fame is creating Chrome. What fucking good is that? Web browsers have existed since the time he was born. There's nothing to innovate there, and there never has been. It's clear: he's not an innovator.

Whoever takes over after he's gone is going to be in for a hell of a time. The only thing he's created for Google is a shit-ton of anti-trust lawsuits. The company is an empty husk at this point. There's nothing left for them to become.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From a shareholder's perspective, which is the only perspective C suite executives care about, he's been the best CEO of all time for Google.

[–] fsmacolyte@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, in the short term. I've switched to DDG and I'm not getting another Pixel when I need a new phone, and hoards of tech savvy people are feeling the same way. Dissatisfaction is causing them to lose customers and talent.

Eventually, they'll start feeling it in their bottom line. And by then it might be too late to change course.

[–] mark@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

When you're ready for a new phone, check out the Fairphone! I got that with CalyxOS. Works and feels just like Pixel, but super private 👍

[–] Xendarq@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fairphone is amazing but will they ever launch outside of the EU?

[–] mark@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not sure where you're located but I live in the USA and have it. I just ordered the phone int and then signed up with a US carrier.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago

Has he increased short term profitability?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Google became Apple

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Was GO made during Pichai's tenure? I don't use GO but apparently they got the guy who wrote C on it so...?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, Go dates back to when Eric Schmidt was running things.

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