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Notice: This post is made out of frustration and you can leave your thoughts and anger here too.

I am 25, female, german and a freelance photographer. Since a year I am trying to get into concert photograpy with pay. The first 10 concerts I did of course for free to build my portfolio but now I reached the point where I want to get real jobs and some respect for my work.

But as many fellows know it is a hard world out there and you have to give 200% effort to get 2% chance on landing a job. So one of my strategies were writing pm‘s to concert photographers on instagram with the question if they could be so kind and spill the tea about experiences in the business.

Guess what? The answers were vague and short or you would get ignored. Further it would stop at telling the simple thing of which lens they used. I get it that everyone has their own style and tries to protect it but you can nit be replaced that quickly by just helping one out with some info.

Can someone tell me about similar experiences? Is there someone who is not afraid of giving informations about this photography sector? I would really like to not feel alone anymore with this behavior.

Thanks guys!

Summary: Freelance photographer trying to get into concert sector but struggles to get paid jobs. Succesfull photographers won‘t have a conversation about their experiences. Hence their the biggest gatekeepers in my opinion!!

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[–] Stakhanov93@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Maybe I’m in a minority here, but I think gatekeeping is totally fair. It’s not my responsibility to help people arrive at conclusions/realisations when I’ve had to work hard to get somewhere.

I do a lot of location portrait work and often get DMs from photographers asking where I took certain photos. I just ignore the messages. I do lots of research and spend time and effort to make sure that I get the results I want!

[–] Old_Marzipan_6817@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I get your point of view but I think there is a difference between the subjects you keep information from. I am not a friend of everyone on their own. Sharing knowledge and helping each other out is beneficial for everyone. This competition mentallity is so tiresome don‘t you think?

I bet there were moments in your career where someone gave you a tip and it helped you out a lot. Did the person who gave you the information Benifit negativly from their action? I bet not. I bet you helped them out with something in return.

Lets be better than that.

[–] ddouchecanoe@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Sharing knowledge and helping each other out is beneficial for everyone.

I am curious how exactly it would be beneficial for a photographer to share the secret to their success with you? And specifically via PM where the conversation would only be between you two, only you would get the info and no larger audience would see?

Many seasoned and successful photogs create courses and do coaching about this exact question. The privileged to receive one-on-one time and answers to your personal questions usually has a decent cost associated because their time and experience matters and they have worked hard to get to where they are.

Photography may be their passion, but it is also their business.

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