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[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yea in a ratio of about 10 Palestinians per 1 Israeli. Neither side has clean hands. But one side sure is hell bent on completely genociding the other. This both sides shit you're spewing is disgusting. Recognize that a genocide is taking place and is killing tens of thousands of innocents.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In your opinion it would've been OK for Israel to retaliate if the ratio was closer to 1:1?

Neither side has clean hands

100% true.

But one side sure is hell bent on completely genociding the other

You mean the side that had the "obliteration" of the other side mentioned multiple times in its charter?

Recognize that a genocide is taking place and is killing tens of thousands of innocents.

Agreed. The UN should've stepped in a long time ago and provided much needed security.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Israel won't let the UN step in. UN buildings, programs, and investigators were some of the first targeted, and the US has veto power within the UN. One side has the capacity and is committing genocide, and when you bother to look at what they are saying in Israeli social networks, they are not shy about it. Israel also killed the alternatives for Hamas, bolstering it over the PA to prevent the possibility of a legitimate Palestinian state from rising.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Israel won’t let the UN step in. UN buildings, programs, and investigators were some of the first targeted, and the US has veto power within the UN.

I know, it was wishful thinking.

when you bother to look at what they are saying in Israeli social networks, they are not shy about it

Checking social networks is pointless. Hell, check German socials and you'd think that AfD has 99% votes already. Check US networks and it's a literal civil war. Check Polish socials and half the country is already surrendered to russia.

Too much disinformation for socials to be any source of information.

It's better to look at what was going on just before the attack - and that is: Netanyahu having around 30% support and multiple lawsuits being prepared against him, with people protesting on the streets.

Israel also killed the alternatives for Hamas

When was that? I know that Hamas won general elections in 2006 and no other elections have happened in Gaza ever since and, from what you're saying, it seems that I missed another conflict that happened between then and now, where Fatah was eliminated.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Islamic fundamentalists are also not shy about it. You should listen to what they say, too.

Palestine is a tiny part of a very large middle east majority called Islam, they don't concern themselves with such things as "states" and "borders". According to them.

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Your weaponization of islamohpobia won't work. Israel kill Muslims, Christians and atheist

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We agree, only the UN could enforce a "two-state solution".

Left to their own devices, Palestinian or Israeli, (HAMAS vs. Zionist, Islam vs. Jew), genocide is their end goal per their own words. Not everybody. But the fundamentalists don't respect the opinion of "anybody" or the rule of law, and they don't negotiate in good faith, ever.

They both want dominion from the river to the sea. Neither will submit to the rule of the other. It's time for us to give up that fantasy.

A lot of international troops would be required to "keep the peace", and even then, murders will continue, just at a slower pace.

If the UN (not the USA) won't keep the peace, we need to get Palestinian civilians out of there. This is an international war, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Iran, the Islamic Republic, HAMAS, Hezbollah, et al. aren't going to negotiate peace, there are no terms the other would accept.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

I have a firm belief that any form of fundamentalism should be treated like a mental illness. So many things would improve in the world...