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[–] Chev@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If you live in a first world country, living vegan is honestly not a problem at all. And of course I'm not counting the US here. These guys are just poor people that are challanged enough already.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's actually cheaper in the US, to note. The lowest income groups in the US are the one exactly the most likely to be vegan or plant-based

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That’s a polite way to say living on rice and beans is a healthy choice.

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 3 days ago

No, it's a way to say it's a cheap choice.

[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think I would have a tough time with going full vegan. Vegetarian sounds like I could do it easily. I enjoy a lot of vegetarian dishes regularily and will often prefer vegetarian options over meat based dishes.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can always start there then keep going. I will say a lot of people who ultimately go vegan also thought they never could do it. There's some communities on lemmy with some good recipes if you want inspiration

!veganrecipes@sh.itjust.works

!veganhomecooks@lemmy.world

[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Thanks! I appreciate the links, and I will definitely refer to some of those recepies

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So do vegan plus. Vegan plus bacon. Vegan plus cheese.

Don't let perfect become the enemy of progress.

[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

My progress is to introduce more vegan meals, not to cut out meat fully. Lacto-ovo flexi pescatarian, or something like that.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Of all the places in the world I’ve been, eating vegan in the US was the easiest by far.

Edit: except India. I should have specified western world.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

Considering German cuisine, I find it very easy to do at the least in most big cities.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, your country can be rich but it does not mean it's easy being vegan and even if its, often there is still an economic impact on going vegan that poorer people cannot afford

[–] Baleine@jlai.lu 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] anise@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In a just world it is, but it kinda depends. A lot of countries subsidise dairy products into the ground for example, which can make it cheaper to be vegan except for dairy. This is of course still better than not vegan at all

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Even with subsidies, it's still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It's only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don't yet have the same economies of scale

It found that in high-income countries:

• Vegan diets were the most affordable and reduced food costs by up to one third.

• Vegetarian diets were a close second.

• Flexitarian diets with low amounts of meat and dairy reduced costs by 14%.

• By contrast, pescatarian diets increased costs by up to 2%.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study

Compared to meat eaters, results show that “true” vegetarians do indeed report lower food expenditures

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921800915301488?via=ihub (looking at the US)

Based on primary data (n = 1040) collected through an online survey, representative of the Portuguese population, through logistic regressions, it was possible to conclude that plant-based consumers, particularly vegan, are associated with lower food expenditures compared to omnivorous consumers. In fact, plant-based consumers are shown to spend less than all other consumers assessed

https://agrifoodecon.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40100-022-00224-9

[–] VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago

I mean, germany does subsidize dairy products and the store-brand oat milk is still cheaper. Is it more heavily subsidized where you live?

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Even with subsidies, it's still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It's only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don't yet have the same economies of scale

Seems like you are from Italy based on your instance? Studies have found overall costs lower in Italy for plant-based diets

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 0 points 4 days ago

Yeah in Italy overall the price of meat is higher than plants but where i live, if i compare the quantity of meat and plants needed for a full meal, they are almost at the same prices especially where i live since we have plenty of meat to export anyway, the point was not about me but about others, i could prolly be vegetarian with little problems (not vegan, i could not) but I am not very healty so i'd rather not gamble with what i eat too

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The lowest income groups are actually the most likely to be vegan and eat the least meat, dairy, etc. around the world. The lowest income countries eat the least animal products

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's true but not in all places