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Just never really heard of anyone in all my years go to their PCP and get an "upper". But have heard a bunch go to their doctor's for something for less anxiety, make you sleepy, methadone, morephine hell even now weed. and again NOT SEEKING MEDICAL ADVICE. Only one I have heard of is a B12 shot but that's probably replaced by the vitamin.

EDIT: 2 Hours later and this became an ADHD forum lol. Is that the only one?

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[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Most ADHD medication (ritalin, etc) is basically just medical grade methamphetamine.

[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Adderall is literally just four different types of amphetamines.

There is an uncommonly-prescribed ADHD drug called Desoxyn that is literally just meth.

[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Being an amphetamine doesn't mean a drug is "basically meth".

Would you say DXM is basically Ketamine because both are dissociative drugs?

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dxm and ketamine have similar effects on similar neurotransmitters, but not identical. Amphetamine and methamphetamine have identical effects on the same receptors, one just stick around longer.

Analogy: dxm is taking a bus down the street, ketamine is taking truck down the street. Amphetamine is driving your car going 70, meth is driving your car going 85.

[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They don't have identical effects, otherwise one wouldn't work better for an individual than others.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Correct. Much like there is a difference between driving 70 and 85.

Some people, going 70 just doesn't cut it.

[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No. They each have different effects on the brain. Stimulants work on several different mechanisms of action, and how much they affect the various mechanisms varies by drug.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And now you're just wrong.

They work the exact same way, they affect the exact same receptors in the exact same way. One just effects them for longer than the other. This is not like comparing DXM and ketamine.

Edit: This is what people mean when they say adderall is basically meth. They have the same neurochemical effect. The methyl group (that's the meth- in methamphetamine) just means that meth stays bound to the receptors for a little bit longer.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

Is the below confusing?

There is an uncommonly-prescribed ADHD drug called Desoxyn that is literally just meth.

[–] DonPiano@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Amphetamines and methamphetamine are not the same. Different chemicals have different effects.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

In this case they have the same effects, one is just stronger.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Meth is definitely meth though.

And one of the drugs prescribed for ADHD is literally pharmaceutical-grade meth.

I guess let's ignore that though because ita convenient.

There is an uncommonly-prescribed ADHD drug called Desoxyn that is literally just meth.

[–] endless_nameless@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you've never taken either or seen anybody on either and know almost nothing about either, then sure, I guess you could say that.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Having taken both and having worked a stint in pharmaceutical R+D, I can tell you they're pretty much the same thing. One's a bit stronger than the other.