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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Pathologists of Lemmy : does most people (36y old, ...) dying from a single punch have a pre-existing condition ? Looks quite odd.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It can happen. Punches to the face, head, and neck are more dangerous than some people realize. I won't say lethality is super common. But if you punch someone in anger, be prepared for serious consequences.

For example, sometimes a sinus collapses, sending bone fragments into the brain from a single hard blow to the wrong place. (I am not a doctor, but this happened to a kid in my home town in the 80s.)

[–] Otkaz@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It happens quite often. I'm a paramedic and have responded to scenes numerous times where the patient was only hit in the face once and died. I actually remember, years ago, it happened two shifts in a row in the same parking lot. There was a bar there that commonly had fights outside after it closed. Both times, people told me the person was punched in the face only one time. One of the two he was laying in the grass, so it wasn't even like he bashed his head on the pavement after.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know a couple of stories like this. The one that stuck with me was a bunch of kids who did like a regular unsupervised boxing group. One day, one guy got clocked just right, said he was out, sat down, then collapsed.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

~~pretty much the same thing, but not the incident I'm referring to, these were highschoolers~~

edit I re read it, that event was sanctioned by the school wtf

[–] Jjabrams@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How are combat sports a thing? I've seen so many MMA fights end with a dude getting knocked out then the winner wailing on his lifeless face a few extra times before the ref pulls him off.

[–] Otkaz@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Those are trained athletes. These are drunk red necks.

I tried a quick Google for some statistics and didn't dig deep. One of the first results shows 90 deaths in Australia from a single punch in a 2 year span. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36878145/

[–] Jjabrams@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, but how does training help a knocked out fighter when he receives 3-4 more uncontested blows to his face? Is it because their head is already flat on the mat, and is absorbing less impact from the punches or something?

[–] alp@lemmy.zip 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

15 years ago, my taekwondo instructor punched a mugger in the chest only once, and the man's rib broke and stabbed his heart and then he died. My instructor spent spent 2 or 3 years of jailtime for the crime "unintentionally killing".

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, the instructor could have gotten stabbed too, but not with a rib

[–] 567PrimeMover@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

Not a pathologist, but it isn't unheard of to die from a punch. It happens more often than you'd think

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

Bare knuckles to the dome can definitely kill.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well I'm allergic to being punched, I swell up pretty bad

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Can definitely happen. I guy died in my country years ago because someone punched him outside a pub and he fell.

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

Not a pathologist but def if you got the right place anything can happen. As an anecdote, when I was growing up a fight started on the sidewalk I'm front of my house with some teens (not like big guys by any measure) and the guy threw one punch and the dude got knocked out. Hit him right in the temple and the dude died in the hospital after.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Likely a skull fracture. I doubt it was done with a fist. More likely a bat.

Nikhil's nose and some teeth were broken.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The police further informed that "during the fight, Renuka punched Nikhil in the face. The impact of the punch was so hard that Nikhil's nose and some teeth were broken. With heavy bleeding, Nikhil lost consciousness."

there's no hint of a weapon, and the only word they use is "punch".. she has a deadly fist..

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I have a feeling something was lost in the translation. You would mangle your hand doing that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Maybe she's an MMA fighter.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

that's not how losing things in translation works.. they wouldn't choose the specific word that means hitting someone with a fist.. the word would have become more generic, so it should be something like "struck" or "hit" and we'd be left to guess.. besides, i think they speak English.. and anyway, we're not talking about my hand or yours..

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

“The accused’s confession to the police reveals that the couple may have had an argument over these issues on Friday and she could have hit her husband on the head with a heavy object. He may have fell unconscious. We are yet to find the object that was used to attack him,” a police official said.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/pune-news/realtor-allegedly-killed-by-wife-over-domestic-dispute-in-pune-101700857549109.html

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Several years ago in my city a guy got punched once outside of a bar, fell backwards, and broke his neck on the street curb. "Just one punch" can do a hell of a lot of damage, if you get hit in the wrong spot or fall the wrong way.