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[–] Meth_Hardy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I agree with him 100%. It's why most of the big clubs have bigger squads and players with some good versatility, so help cover multiple positions and allow others to rest. It's hard on the smaller teams and those with less back up options in their squads. Brighton especially seem to be decimated with injuries whilst also having to factor in a European schedule.

[–] I_like_trains_mkaay@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Im surprised the most upvoted comments wasn't a "Erik ten excuses" joke.

It really hurts smaller teams.

We have so many out injured and we just dont have any depth to cover it up. We had 3 players on the bench yesterday that arent supposed to be close to the first team yet.

[–] ArteezyILLEGAL@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Chelsea have enough players to rotate for another 2 more competitions. Best club ITW /s

[–] Modnal@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, if this keeps up it's gonna become really important to have a versatile squad and bench. Having players who can only play one position is gonna be a luxury

[–] kondiar0nk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Pep was way ahead of the curve on this one.

[–] MrStigglesworth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't help Wenger that much tbh, we were always crippled by injuries come Feb

[–] kondiar0nk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Mostly because refs back then were totally cool with allowing teams to just kick them off the park

[–] bremsspuren@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I remember pundits completely losing it back then lol

"It's disrespectful!" :D

Managers occasionally used to complain about CL clubs resting players and fielding weakened sides against their opposition.

The same managers then started resting their best players against Mourinho's Chelsea to preserve their strength for matches they had a chance of winning, and everyone just kind of accepted that rotation is what we do now.

[–] ewankenobi@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Claudio Ranieri was first manager I remember who really started rotating players in the Premiership. The British press nicknamed him the tinkerman because of it

[–] AnnieIWillKnow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Emma Hayes has been building her Chelsea Women squad in this mould for years too. So many versatile players. Genuinely at least half of the squad can play at least three different positions.

Erin Cuthbert is her dream. Has played wing back on both flanks, defensive midfield, box-to-box, attacking midfield, both wings.

A lot is made of CFCW's depth in terms of numbers, but it's the versatility that is key - and Hayes has built it that way.

[–] Tpickarddev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Newcastle had 10 squad members (and Elliot Anderson who's u21 but a key squad member) out against Chelsea, we've got 2 games a week till Xmas.

Even with a decent 25 man squad we're at bare bones, we named 4 keepers and mostly kids on our bench, and started a 17y/o...

There's tough schedules and there's ridiculous schedules. Next year's changes to the champions league will add another burden for most clubs competing in that.

And then the double side of that is if you lose European football you can't afford to expand your squad to much or have tonnes of players in a non Euro season who just won't get enough football, so aside from teams who can stay in the top 3 regularly to build a massive squad, it just becomes a massive gamble on injuries.

[–] TechTuna1200@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The bigger clubs usually had more matches. But with addition of conference league, the smaller clubs are beginning to feel the same pain

[–] Iordbendtner@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah thats a good point. Here in the eredivisie, with recent coefficient points we have and the conference league, 8th place will already play europa games. Thats the half of the league where it used to be (on the top of my head) first champipns league play offs and second europa league play offs

[–] a_lumberjack@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

There’s always been 7-8 slots in Europe, and smaller clubs have always struggled with it. Stoke, Swansea, West Ham basically threw a qualifier one year to avoid it.

[–] Mordho@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s why I’m so grateful for Darmian. Without him we’d have been in the mud last year and even this year with Pavard going down and also Dumfries having no backup

[–] Meth_Hardy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As an Arsenal fan, I'm really grateful we have Trossard and Tomiyasu. Both can cover multiple positions and both are really talented footballers.

[–] dodol_garut12@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Timber was supposed to be that as well :(

[–] swiftwilly321@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Kai plays LB too

[–] Democracy_Coma@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Europa has always been difficult for teams to handle. You often saw teams qualify and then next season be battling relegation. This isn't a new phenomenon.

[–] Emma-Royds@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We had 4 different competitions AND a winter World Cup AND a messed up schedule due to the queen’s death last season, it was fucking absurd watching us playing every 3 days

[–] LoathsomeBeaver@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This year should have been postponed like three weeks or so.

[–] Black_XistenZ@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The thing is that the top teams in most leagues are rather stable and can plan on playing international football (and reaping the corresponding revenue and prize money) every season, so that they can afford to build large squads geared toward playing in 3/4 competitions. On the #6 or #7 spots, there is typically far higher volatility from year to year, so these clubs neither have the large squad, nor can they build one based on a one-off participation in international competition.