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Hello! This is both a question and commentary, as I'm hoping to finally solve a dilemma that's bothered me all year.

I have a library nearing 1 million photos and videos of all formats (including RAW and heic) that I've built over several years. Nowadays, I edit with Capture One, which is fantastic, but not very useful for importing (lack of options), culling (slow render), and especially cataloging (breaks down with a year's worth of photos). I do not yet have a NAS, and store everything on two USB HDDs — broke artist with ancient mac arch etc etc.

So began the quest to find software that could organize and show my photos. What's the use of a million photos if it takes too long to look at any of them? My POIs were importing (copying files from source to library, sorting by year/month, detecting duplicates), culling (rate, color tag, keywords, and preview speed in full view), and catalog (fast gallery thumbnails, albums, sorting, small data size). Here's what I've found thus far:

-Lightroom: Does it all, but I hate it. Overpriced, lacks some professional features, doesn't play well with a lot of non-adobe apps, no duplicate finder, slow-ish.

-PhotoMechanic Plus: Excellent cataloging, okay culling and import. Quite expensive, doesn't let you assign custom keyboard shortcuts, weird-ish licensing system, hard to tell what data you have in your RAW photos (can you save under/overexposed parts? will it look good in B&W?)

-ACDSee 10 for Mac: Eh? Seems to work well, but has some... quirks. Always shows both jpeg and raw when shooting linked. Feels underdeveloped still, or like a paid version of Darktable.

-FastRawViewer: Amazing for culling, shows full RAW data and lets you view with basic "effects" like shadow boost of B&W. Lacks keywords or any kind of cataloguing or importing.

-XnViewMP: Previews seem fast enough, but software seems slow and sometimes has issues when scrolling past videos. Unsure how usable it is for importing.

-Mylio: Offers a lot of features and a nice UI for free, but also seems oversimplified, has a lot of weird restrictions, doesn't offer a good way to switch to my backup drive if my main fails, and seems to read the wrong capture date on many of my Panasonic RAW photos. I'm also worried it won't stay free forever.

-PhotoSupreme: Supposedly similar to PhotoMechanic? I could not get it to work very well, seems to lack the import to year/month folder feature so I didn't spend a ton of time with it.

-DigiKam/DarkTable: (similar experience with both) Worked okay, but both software and previews were slow. It felt like my catalog file was set up wrong and slowing things down, but everything I checked looked correct. I tested these a while ago now, maybe they've improved or I should change something?

-PhotoStructure: I'm hopeful? Seems to just be for cataloging and deleting duplicates, but paired with FastRawViewer and C1, I'm okay with that. I'm running this now and will update... so far looks like it's going to be slow, unfortunately.

-Adobe Bridge and similar DAMs without cataloging: Too slow and complex to navigate for more than like 20 pictures. At least FastRawViewer lets you see subfolder contents, unlike most of these. Great if you do low-batch work, but I shoot a lot (concerts, etc) so it's a non-starter.

-Network DAMs, ie Daminion: Sounds great. Doesn't work for me per above...

I'm left baffled. How are there all of these almost-good options at vastly different price points? Like, smash together ACDSee and FastRawViewer and I'd be a happy camper, but no. I know development is hard and I'm not saying any of these are bad software, but, surely there's something that covers these relatively basic bases?

For myself, I see two path: Drop money I don't have on PhotoMechanic Plus, or make do with FastRawViewer and C1 with a minimal catalog. I feel like there has to be a better option though. Does anyone have tips? A program I haven't tried, or settings to make the above work betetr?

Thank ya!

P.S. I'll update the above as I learn more!

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[–] eeeerrrppp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Pretty much same. On1 2021 (i think?) was the first replacement I bought and I certainly didn’t hate it. But I remember it also chugging to handle the large catalog, and while it had more features, the quality didn’t compete with C1. Has it improved though? Without the AI tools, is the cataloging faster now?

[–] TastyStatistician@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

2024 version just came out. They say it has major speed and ui improvements. I haven't imported my full library yet. I've been using a small catalog for testing the free trial. I think for the price, it's good and worth a try.

The reason I'm looking for a new raw editor is because my old non-subscription version Lightroom(5.7) doesn't support my new camera's raw files.

I've tried C1 many times but I've never been happy the interface and raw rendering. I like on1 probably more than C1. C1 is a heavy program in my experience. On1 is faster on my computer.

DxO photolab 7 is currently my top choice for Lightroom replacement. It's not perfect. Raw rendering is great and it gives me a great starting point but the other tools aren't as good. My main problem is the tone curve is poorly implemented. I haven't explored the catalog tools yet. It's double the price of on1.

[–] eeeerrrppp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’ll check it out!

What do you shoot with? I personally love the C1 rendering with my Panasonic and Olympus cameras, but my old Sony is a little bland, so it might vary by model/brand? I feel like it’s my favorite of what I’ve used, but that’s subjective… Overall I agree, DxO seems to trade blows with C1 more than On1 or even LR can. But if you’re a fellow user of curves a lot, I believe C1 has the best implication I’ve used (excluding DaVinci Resolve). If you work in small batches, you might also consider Affinity Photo?

Sounds like we’re in similar situations… I’m excited to hear what you land on!

[–] TastyStatistician@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I only had a Nikon D5200 and Lightroom 5.7 for a very long time. About a year ago, I bought a Fuji X100V for travel and street photography. My Lightroom version is too old for my Fuji camera. I tried all the other competitors and decided to buy DxO Photolab 7 only because of the raw rendering. It doesn't have a catalog, only a file browser so it's not great for organizing large numbers of images. Adobe bridge is much faster.

I have Affinity Photo. I like it a lot but not for raw development. I'm using the Nik Collection to do the final adjustment. It's not the best workflow but I'm getting pretty good results.

[–] eeeerrrppp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Okay yeah! Interesting approach. I develop RAW with Affinity on my ipad and am very satisfied given how portable it is. But it’s a slow workflow for large projects :/

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