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James "I need about a 10-game window" Harden finishes his 11th game with 11/2/4 and 3 TOs in a loss against the Jokic, Murray, and Gordon-less Nuggets (alien.top)

submitted 9 months ago by northernjigby@alien.top to c/nba@nba.space

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The Clippers are now 4-7 since trading for Harden, or 0-1 in his "ready" state.

Memes aside, he was okay this game, but okay isn't good enough when you're with a fully healthy Clippers vs a Reggie Jackson-led Nuggets.

Harden isn't exactly playing terribly as a Clippers, but at this point in his career, it's hard to justify an offence-first player on a team as offensively stacked as the Clippers when they're in desperate need of some more off-ball movement.

Harden is looking to secure a max extension, we'll have to see what kind of contract he can muster as he gets more into game shape as the season progresses.

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[–] EpicOne1337@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (17 children)

I really like seeing these kinds of threads where there are like 20 comments calling the downvoted person a nephew and in hindsight being completely wrong lol.

In this case I feel like the take wasn't even that far off the rails, especially as recent as it was (w/ as little disrespect to Harden as possible, obviously dude's still the 4th best SG and one of the greatest offensive players of all time)- he was already 32 back then, with a heliocentric game relying heavily on athleticism, and was already notorious for being a pylon on defense and going wild in the offseason. I don't think I would've gone as far as saying Maxey would be better by now, but I was definitely on the side of thinking he'd decline pretty rapidly.

[–] porncollecter69@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Because we’re in the now. It’s hard to evaluate the future.

I can say in 3 years Lively is going to be the better than Embiid and you would have to call me nephew and I would agree.

Meanwhile in 3 years, lots of things can happen. Like injury.

[–] Liucahe@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Sure, but people on this sub are also extremely fast to downvote something they don’t agree with.

[–] RogerTreebert6299@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And across all sports, I think people disregard how quickly players can fall off a cliff from one season to the next. But specifically with basketball, most guard skill sets require speed that very very few 32+ year olds maintain. Happened to Kemba super fast, I think it’s even more apparent with smaller guards since they need the speed to beat rim protectors.

[–] klutzers@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

even more extreme, look at IT once he hurt his hip. couldn't even get much more than charity bench spots after the trade to cleveland after being an MVP candidate

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