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The Clippers are now 4-7 since trading for Harden, or 0-1 in his "ready" state.

Memes aside, he was okay this game, but okay isn't good enough when you're with a fully healthy Clippers vs a Reggie Jackson-led Nuggets.

Harden isn't exactly playing terribly as a Clippers, but at this point in his career, it's hard to justify an offence-first player on a team as offensively stacked as the Clippers when they're in desperate need of some more off-ball movement.

Harden is looking to secure a max extension, we'll have to see what kind of contract he can muster as he gets more into game shape as the season progresses.

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[–] EpicOne1337@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really like seeing these kinds of threads where there are like 20 comments calling the downvoted person a nephew and in hindsight being completely wrong lol.

In this case I feel like the take wasn't even that far off the rails, especially as recent as it was (w/ as little disrespect to Harden as possible, obviously dude's still the 4th best SG and one of the greatest offensive players of all time)- he was already 32 back then, with a heliocentric game relying heavily on athleticism, and was already notorious for being a pylon on defense and going wild in the offseason. I don't think I would've gone as far as saying Maxey would be better by now, but I was definitely on the side of thinking he'd decline pretty rapidly.

[–] nickyv917@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I love this man's vocabulary

[–] porncollecter69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because we’re in the now. It’s hard to evaluate the future.

I can say in 3 years Lively is going to be the better than Embiid and you would have to call me nephew and I would agree.

Meanwhile in 3 years, lots of things can happen. Like injury.

[–] jlluh@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think that's necessarily a nephew take, even absent major injury. 3 years is aggressive, but in five years, sure, when Embiid is 34, there might be a lot of centers better than him.

[–] mommathecat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Father Time is undefeated, and even 2 years ago Harden was past his physical prime.

Maxey had nowhere to go but up.

OP wasn't even suggesting that Maxey would definitely be better, just that it was entirely possible. And, of course it was.

[–] Public-Product-1503@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah that actually is nephew take; because I don’t see that skill set . It’s like with the Utah kid cebtre : the tools him n lively have immediately were useful but OUTSUDE of growing defensively into a gobert type or in that mold day I can’t see them magically getting all the skills embid has.Msxey was an absurdly good shooter b absurdly athletic , people not on this sub who have an idea how players progress woukd guess he’d be atleast a sub all star lvl player : I mean I did and I’m not a Philly fan or a massive draft nerd even if I read stuff once in a while. Players tend to snow flashes : it’s why projecting Wemby n Chet to mvp centre lvl is easier even if lively is very good now I wouldn’t project that way .

[–] SuburbanLegend@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Maxey was absolutely not an absurdly good shooter -- him becoming one is a huge surprise.

[–] Liucahe@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Sure, but people on this sub are also extremely fast to downvote something they don’t agree with.

[–] Dropsix@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This is every sub. This is Reddit. When given two options only, what else are you supposed to do? Upvote downvote

[–] Xc0liber@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either up or down. Can't be in the middle

[–] McBrungus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's very weird. I've taken a lot of care to not comment on things I don't have much knowledge about (hence most of my comments here being Sixers related), and am constantly baffled at how frequently people make extreme pronouncements about players/teams they don't follow closely.

[–] Public-Product-1503@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People just like to clown takes against the herd here

[–] axle69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I try to only downvote when I think someone is being an asshole. Which is also the incorrect reason to downvote but by God it makes me feel better for absolutely no reason.

[–] YellowMarkerIsGreat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I mean you’re not using the downvote as a disagree button which wasn’t it’s intended purpose

[–] RogerTreebert6299@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And across all sports, I think people disregard how quickly players can fall off a cliff from one season to the next. But specifically with basketball, most guard skill sets require speed that very very few 32+ year olds maintain. Happened to Kemba super fast, I think it’s even more apparent with smaller guards since they need the speed to beat rim protectors.

[–] klutzers@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

even more extreme, look at IT once he hurt his hip. couldn't even get much more than charity bench spots after the trade to cleveland after being an MVP candidate

[–] bushies@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's as if nephews who don't actually watch the players they shitpost about are shortsighted or something

[–] Bleoox@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No matter how much basketball you watch, there's no way of knowing the future. This very well could be LeBron's last season or maybe he plays 5 more. Maybe in 5 years Luka is not a top 10 player and Jalen Green is a runner for MVP.