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Absolutely insane numbers by Giannis over the last 3 odd weeks. He and dame are really starting to click, even though it doesn’t always look like it on the floor. The game will just end and you’ll see they combined for like 60/17/17.

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[–] DrOzmitazBuckshank@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dude, he’s already the 2nd best PF of all time. He has more MVPs than KG and Dirk, the FMVP KG doesn’t have, the DPOY Dirk doesn’t have, more 1st Team All NBAs than both, and he scores more than either ever did. All they have on him is years in the league

[–] tridentboy3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He isn't yet. KG and Dirk were playing at an elite level for longer than Giannis has even been in the league at this point. He scores more than KG but KG was a significantly better defensive player than Giannis ever was and the scoring gap isn't really that far between either KG/Dirk and Giannis when you account for pace. Further, KG and Dirk happened to play in the same era as Tim Duncan who would have also reduced the amount of 1st team All NBA's that Giannis has.

Years in the league are important when discussing all time ranking. Giannis peaked higher than Dirk ever did but him and KG had similar peaks and KG did it for far longer so far. We can't assume Giannis is going to have x more elite years that he hasn't actually had yet. Giannis will, very likely, surpass both KG and Dirk (there's a very very strong argument that he has already passed Dirk) and has an outside shot at TD but he hasn't yet.

Lastly, everyone knew KG was the best player on the 2008 Celtics. Pierce may have won FMVP but Garnett is the primary reason they were the champions that year.