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What is a self-hosted app/os/service/ect that is widely "known" as being fully open source, but it actually relies significantly on closed source software? (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by AllTheModzAreCancer@alien.top to c/main@selfhosted.forum
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I was looking into Tailscale which I thought to be complexly open source, but it turns out that their coordination server is closed source. If you want to run your own open source coordination server, Headscale is the go-to option.

This is no fault of their own (as they freely express this in their FAQ) it's just that I had always been told by people that Tailscale was fully open source. This got me wondering what else is not as open source as people widely accept it to be?

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[–] thekrautboy@alien.top -2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What is a self-hosted app/os/service/ect

Just what...?? smh

Another genious post from you was recently:

What switch would be good to run openWRT on that is proven reliable and resource capable? It would need at least 10x 1Gb ports, but I guess more would be better to use link aggregation. I only have 1.2 Gbs upload speed so I don't need anything too industrial.

I'm looking to spend under $500 on one and I'm perfectly willing to buy used from eBay. (I got my supermicro board and xeon and ecc ram used there for my NAS and they've been going great for a couple years now.)

And then you deleted it.

I was looking into Tailscale which I thought to be complexly open source, but it turns out that their coordination server is closed source. If you want to run your own open source coordination server, Headscale is the go-to option.

Yes, so if you want to fully selfhost Tailscale, use Headcale. Whats the problem?

that I had always been told by people that Tailscale was fully open source.

Stop listening to "those people" then.

This got me wondering what else is not as open source as people widely accept it to be?

Portainer Business Edition (afaik) isnt open source but the Community Edition is.

[–] swuxil@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

get sober

[–] thekrautboy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I am? :o

[–] lannistersstark@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Seek therapy. Your responses are neither helpful nor witty. If anything, you're a menace to humanity, your family, your 'friends' (if you had any), and general society around you. I feel sorry for anyone who has to interact with you on a regular basis. Your mother would be ashamed of you.

I hope you become a better person.

[–] thekrautboy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Awwww :(

[–] obrb77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, sure, but my comment wasn't great today, and the comment that was downvoted and that you're criticising, while not particularly nice, actually contains more useful information than most of the other comments.

[–] obrb77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes, the comment is not nice, but also not wrong imho. I mean, what's the point of the question? OP got wrong or inaccurate information from random people (probably on reddit) and is now asking random people on reddit if there are other things that random people on reddit are giving wrong or inaccurate information about ;-)

[–] AllTheModzAreCancer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what's the point of the question?

The premise of the question is to open a discussion about software that lives in a de facto state of being completely open source.

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asking random people on reddit

As opposed to asking whom on a hodgepodge full of strangers?

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if there are other things that random people on reddit are giving wrong or inaccurate information about

As opposed to not opening a discussion where erroneous information is not brought to attention...

[–] obrb77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The premise of the question is to open a discussion about software that lives in a de facto state of being completely open source.

just because you and maybe two others here thought Tailscale was "fully" open source doesn't make it a "de facto" thing ;-)

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As opposed to asking whom on a hodgepodge full of strangers?

That was my point. The question itself makes very little sense, as the answers are not representative. (see above). Unless of course you just want to have a a discussion, for the sake of the discussion, which is of course fine :-)

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As opposed to not opening a discussion where erroneous information is not brought to attention...

Well, the problem is that your premise is purely anecdotal. Or to put it another way, you could list any closed source software here because someone in the whole wide world has probably mistaken it for OSS ;-)

[–] lannistersstark@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I mean, what's the point of the question?

Even if OP's original premise might not be 'accurate,' OP's question generated a decent discussion. if that's not the point of forums and subforums, idk what else is.

[–] MrHaxx1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Are you okay?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Chill, everyone makes mistakes sometimes.