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[–] FrankNebula@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

How ironic, he's literally the only guy who can lose to Trump. Get another Democrat candidate.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I can think of a ton of democrats that would fare worse than him in a general election versus Trump. I know lemmy at large (and my own personal politics) don’t align with a more centrist Democrat but with first past the post voting targeting the middle of the electorate is how you win.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

targeting the middle of the electorate is how you win.

Oh, is that how Trump won?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump won because the middle of the electorate largely hates Hillary Clinton. Coincidentally, she’s one of the Democrats that would do worse than Biden in a general election against Trump

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump won because the middle of the electorate largely hates Hillary Clinton.

Oh, really? Is that why Democrats been blaming progressives and only progressives for her loss ever since?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The party isn’t going to bad mouth a former First Lady that drives a huge amount of fundraising for them. I don’t like the fact that money is what drives politics but it’s where this country is at. Doesn’t change the fact that Hillary has a very high unfavorability rating, especially in swing states.

Also, you’re allowed to disagree with me without posing it as a leading question.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The party isn’t going to bad mouth a former First Lady that drives a huge amount of fundraising for them.

That doesn't mean they have to blame progressives, but holy fuck do they love doing so.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Agreed. I think that speaks to how entrenched all this dark money is. I think repealing citizens United and implementing something like single transferable vote instead of first past the post would do a lot to fix American democracy and actually empower people over capital

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 2 points 11 months ago

And he's also the only one who's even remotely worth winning. Seeing as how all the good options aren't even attempting a campaign. And even if they were, the DNC has basically already decided Biden will be the candidate.

[–] June@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

P sure ya’ll said the same thing on 2020…

[–] FrankNebula@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A wet flannel would have beaten Trump in 2020. It turned out a wet flannel did.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Biden’s presidency has been the best in 50 years for progressives. lol.