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B.C. housing plan could see 293,000 new units over next decade, says report
(www.nationalobserver.com)
this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2023
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A lot of immigrants work in construction. I'm not sure how many exactly, but I'm guessing it's a higher proportion than locals. I do agree we should prioritise that instead of executives like we are right now, though.
Sure, many work may work in construction at the lowest end but that not the limiting factor for if construction actually happens.
You don't need 10,000 framers and day labourers you need electricians, plumbers, cabinetry makers, engineers, architects, gas fitters, HVAC technicians, etc.
Almost all of those people need schooling and certification and the lack of those people as well as the permitting process and municipal rezoning process is what's preventing housing from being built fast enough.
Bringing over a million day laborers is not going to help solve the housing crisis, it will stress it.
Most of the people we bring in are, like, doctors, aren't they? Education is very favoured in the application process, including kinds that they'll never be able to actually use here (I think I mentioned executives).
So yeah, bring in plumbers, and get them certified to Canadian standards. Zoning needs to die too, and some cities are working on it. Apparently the high interest rates are really biting right now as well.
Even if they work in construction it's not like that magically makes more houses
I mean, it's not magic, it's economics. If you're putting in more man-hours in a competitive market, you should be getting more products out of the other end. Immigrants can plumb just as well as you, of course.
We don't need more manpower, it's our policies that are restricting supply
Those are also dumb. We should stop zoning everything just for the sake of the environment and basic livability, even.
If there were more incentive to build housing then more people would get into construction, not the other way around. People don't train for industries that don't pay
Sure. IIRC, though, this thread started with somebody blaming immigration for the crisis. It's not that, that's not how it works.
It is if you get more immigrants than you can build houses
Except immigrants build houses. Sense this discussion looping back on itself a bit, so I'll check out if there's nothing further.
But they don't, I don't understand why you are under this impression
Millions of immigrants in recent years and nothing is getting built
Need to fix policies before getting more immigrants
You touch on a point inadvertently about what makes immigration so beneficial is that the workers can start working as soon as they arrive. Or at least, as soon as their qualifications are transferred over (for example nursing). Which is far quicker than having someone born in Canada and waiting 20 odd years til they enter the workforce.
So, theoretically, the new people can help build homes, hospitals, schools, etc for the other people who need it, and then the new new people will build for the new people, and etc. There just doesn't seem to be much planning going into it besides bring people in to make numbers go up. Also, major infrastructure works take years, so they'll never be able to keep up.
I mean, if you've ever looked into the process, I'd actually argue there's too much planning going on, and we need to start over. It's insane that we're still the easiest destination apparently, that shit's Kafkaesque.