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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well yeah, unless you're an immigrant or refugee that recently got citizenship, Canadians were likely last educated about the Charter back in grade school or high school. And never again since unless they look it up themselves.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And, what's worse, the ubiquity of US media has many Canadians confused about which legal documents are even Canadian and thus apply to them.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But muh 5th amendment rightz?!

—WAYYYY too fucking many idiot fellow Canadianz

Edit: to clarify, we DO have the right against self-incrimination and being compelled to take the stand but we don't have Amendment rights—we have the Charter 'n shit

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can forgive Canadians for thinking they have the 5th amendment, because we still have some legal structures which are at least similar.

Canadians who think they have some specially engrained fundamental right to own firearms on the other hand... Like... What?

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I still have trouble accepting either of these beliefs are commonplace among Canadians. My late-20th century education only briefly touched on the Charter but it seems common sense that stuff from US TV wouldn't apply to us.

The odd times I've had questions about various areas of law or governance, I always have to spend time looking them up. (Seems to me people in the US should still research these things though. It's not like TV/movies are accurate, complete, and up-to-date.)

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I guess I don't know if I'd say my experience is that it's "commonplace", but that it's "surprisingly common".

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 11 months ago

but it seems common sense that stuff from US TV wouldn’t apply to us.

Common sense is misnamed, though—it's among the rarest qualities for anyone to have, alas.

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The amount of gun owners who think that gun ownership is a constitutional right is kinda hilarious though

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was the average Canadian educated in it even then? As far as I can recall, the Charter was barely touched on in any required material during my mandatory schooling. We spent more time on stuff like the internal timeline of the Seven Years' War than we did on any kind of civics.

Granted, that was back in the 20th century. I really hope that the subject matter covered in mandatory education has been rebalanced since then, but I'm not holding my breath for the result having been any better.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

If it was covered back then, I don't remember. It's been literally a generation since I was in school. So what little I did learn has certainly been lost by now.