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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They mean at the design/manufacturing level, not retrofitting.

They mean just creat a simple ev car with only the needed designs to house the battery, controller and electric motor(s).

They mean discard all ideas of "futuristic" interiors, techs, or anything. Just build a modest car with an electric powerplant and battery storage. Then stop.

Fire any designer who tells you AI could improve the product.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Think this is the idea behind the GM Ultium platform (and probably others). They always held out “skateboard” as the goal, although I don’t know if that’s still a thing. Create essentially wheels and a plank that include all the power and drive components, modify to a small set of sizes, and crank them out by the millions. Then each car is a unique body and interior on top of the “skateboard”. As the platform gets to scale, you can drive the cost down, while still making unique cars on top of it - including low end cars

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fire any designer who tells you AI could improve the product.

That would be pretty dumb. It's entirely possible to use AI in the design and engineering phase without AI being in the product that's delivered to the customer. It's also entirely possible for AI to be used in areas like crash mitigation, improving the handling in poor road conditions, or optimizing charging speed to improve battery life. Those uses of AI are largely invisible but offer a tangible improvement to the vehicle without being what anyone would consider luxurious. Choosing to ignore a design option because it sounds like something trendy is a great way to design a product that's a worse value for the money.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

AI in the vehicle, he means. Obviously ML models are useful for crash data, don't be a pedant.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sir, this is the internet.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I interpreted it the way they seem to have as well. Not being a pedant, I literally just read it different.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

OP could have been more clear, but it's not unusual for people to take the worst possible interpretation in order to debate something no one was arguing.

What this entire thread is about is just giving us a 2005-2010 era car that's electric. An audio deck with B/T only. No wifi, no Internet connectivity to the manufacturer, all the Laas nonsense with the updates and shit.

Just a vehicle that happens to be electric, not a computer on wheels.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Ai is unnecessary in all those topics. Classical sensing, detection/ response algos are all sufficient.

An LLM or Siri is useless, which is what I'm saying to discard