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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (17 children)

That is a false equivalency.

The trains cost money to run so you are using resources you haven't paid for.

Pirating takes away a possible purchase. You haven't actually used any of their resources or cost them anything.

If I wasn't going to buy it anyway they haven't lost anything.

If you streamed it from their servers for free using an exploit that would be stealing, as you've actually cost them resources.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (15 children)

The trains cost money to run so you are using resources you haven’t paid for.

And media costs money to make.

If I wasn’t going to buy it anyway they haven’t lost anything.

If you weren't going to buy it, why would you pirate it? That's the thing, if you're interested enough in a product to want it, then you taking it for free is a cost to the producer.

If you streamed it from their servers for free using an exploit that would be stealing, as you’ve actually cost them resources.

How do you think scene groups get their materials in the first place? They just find it on a flash drive on a park bench?

More often than not, scene releases are gathered internally by rogue employees in the studio who took something and distributed it in a way that they were not authorized to do. The origins of any movie you pirate come from theft, full stop.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you weren't going to buy it, why would you pirate it? That's the thing, if you're interested enough in a product to want it then you taking it for free is a cost to the producer.

I don't agree with this at all. There are tons of things someone might want to use or have but not enough that they'd be willing to pay for it. Or over a certain amount of money.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact is that the person in question is still taking something without paying for it. A sense of entitlement (I want it badly enough that I should have it for free) doesn't change anything in this equation.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Sure, they are procuring something worth money without paying for it. But this is a very different argument than you would not pirate something if you would not also be prepared to pay it.

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