this post was submitted on 13 Dec 2023
105 points (98.2% liked)

Star Trek Social Club

10679 readers
179 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.


New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?


Rules

1 Be constructiveAll posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.


2 Be welcomingIt is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.


3 Be truthfulAll posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.


4 Be niceIf a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.


5 SpoilersUtilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episode. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.


6 Keep on-topicAll busmittions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books, etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/Quarks.


7 MetaQuestions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.


Upcoming Episodes

Date Episode Title
11-28 LD 5x07 "Fully Dilated"
12-05 LD 5x08 "Upper Decks"
12-12 LD 5x09 "Fissure Quest"
12-19 LD 5x10 "The New Next Generation"
01-24 Film "Section 31"

Episode Discussion Archive


In Production

Strange New Worlds (TBA)

Section 31 (2025-01-24)

Starfleet Academy (TBA)


In Development

Untitled theatrical film

Untitled comedy series


Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.

Allied Discord Server


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I freaking love this show, I started late with Discovery, although I didn't fully like it, I still took the bait. Strange New Worlds is amazing though. Since then I've watched several shows and movies but SNW and Picard are my favorites for production value, art direction,and focusing on several characters and core values.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have really adored Strange New Worlds. It feels far more like Star Trek than most of the later stuff, IMHO. I'm glad they kept Ethan Peck as Spock, because he was one of the few things I liked in Disco.

I felt like most of Picard wasn't great -- especially season 2. But I'm just not a fan of big season arcs, at least not the way they do them now. One great draw for me to things like TNG is the fact I can drop in whenever. Long arcs do exist, but they don't tend to be the point of every. single. episode. Picard felt to me like it had little to offer except the same arc all the time. Most things are just put together like 8- or 13-hour movies now -- but I much prefer planet-of-the-week.

In fact, I make the same argument when discussing the Orville. Sad it was canceled, because it felt even more like Trek than SNW.

[–] daryl@friendsofdesoto.social 5 points 1 year ago

@circuitfarmer @warmaster I was so disappointed in Picard. Season 1 seemed to take all the wrong lessons from modern TV: it went for the gore and tragedy of Game of Thrones but that just doesn't fit the Star Trek medium.

I can see what they wanted to do with Discovery, but quite honestly it felt like there was too little respect for what Trek was before. It didn't have to be the same, but Discovery S1 felt like it was different for the sake of being different, not to be good.

[–] resketreke@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Sad it was canceled

You just gave me really bad news, I had no idea :(

[–] rezz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really could not get into SNW. The almost Marvel-satire-level of constant asides and quips takes me out of it. It wants to be a gorgeous, serious show, a wannabe campy homage, and a modern Marvel action-funny, and eat its cake, too.

Contrast to DS9/TNG, where the show is campy but not self-aware, SNW oscillates between winking at the audience and tearjerker storyline in too small of an interval, consistently.

/review

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely not mArVeL-esque at all, did we watch the same show??

I swear to god anytime a non-comedy show includes some levity these days there’s always someone that manages to cry and make it about marvel.

[–] halm@leminal.space 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I enjoy SNW halfheartedly but it never hits the mark for me. I think you hit the nail on its head with your points about tonal whiplash, and the fandom pandering that Marvel and others have honed to to a formula.

What I find most jarring is that the show runners introduce this lovely crew of the pre-Kirk Enterprise, ripe for character exploration, and then either saddle them with "alternate timeline Kirk romance", or sideline them to fill in some previously non-existing blanks in Spock's love life...

I had been fine with a SNW show that was just Pike and his crew boldly going, but I personally feel like it's hampered by scorecard TOS nostalgia. Clearly this is just my opinion, I do love it that people are so hyped over Star Trek again! I'm just jonesing for something that points to the show's future, not another Spock/Kirk recast...

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you ever feel the urge to dig into trek history, check this out: https://ds9redefined.wordpress.com/ https://ds9redefined.wordpress.com/screenshots/

They have a discord where you can find their FTP to download the upscaled/ai episodes. DS9 is complete and they are working on wrapping season 1 of voyager currently.

I’ve gone through multiple ai / upscale attempts and this one I like the most!

If you love SNW, you will likely enjoy ds9 and voy