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    2024 is the Year of Linux on the Desktop, at least for my boyfriend. He's running Windows 7 right now, so I'll be switching him to Ubuntu in a few days. Ubuntu was chosen because Proton is officially supported in Ubuntu.

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    [–] molochthagod@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    As a former lifelong Windows user (from 2002 to 2019), I honestly don't get why people continue using Windows in the future. It doesn't make sense to me. They're cracking down on liberties, increasing system requirements, and old software and games are gradually becoming less compatible. And people seem to be starting to realize that other options are becoming gradually more attractive, because Windows is now hovering below 70% while just ten years ago it was at over 90%. Meanwhile Mac has grown from 7% to 20%, and Linux is at an unprecedented 3%, and that's not counting ChromeOS, which is slightly higher.

    The mistakes Microsoft is doing can prove fatal. Because I think for most people, once they embrace Linux, even if Windows improves, they won't wanna go back.

    [–] kier@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    You're right. And people continue to use Windows because all software is available for it. See... Adobe products, Notion, Windows games with just a double click, even the Whatsapp application, Full OneNote and do not even mention MS Office...

    Yeah, I think the reason many don't switch, is because of software availability.

    [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I think the main reason is it's preinstalled on most PCs and most people have no idea Linux exists let alone how how to install a new OS.

    [–] kier@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

    I mean, yeah. But retailers with install Windows on them, even if Microsoft don't pay them a dime (at least in my country it is like that)

    [–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Having recently replaced my laptop (with a used Lenovo T495) and set it up to dual boot Win11 and Endeavor…Windows 11 was by far the most difficult and time consuming to get from “boot off installation media” to “open functional web browser”. Would have been even easier had I asked Endeavor to just use up all of the partition I left free from installing Windows.

    So when I got the T495, I went through the Win 11 OOBE to check it out. Turned it off until I got the Ram upgrade for it in the mail. That was my first problem, because “turn off” doesn’t mean what you think it does in Windows. If you want to get to the Lenovo system settings/boot order/diagnostics, turns out you have to “restart”. Go figure.

    Then I did the switcheroo with NVMes in my old T470s and the 495. Took my 1TB out of the 470 into the 495, and took the 256 that came with the 495 and put it in the 470.

    Then go to start the 470 and it boots fine to Win 11 but I can’t login with my PIN because my PIN is now expired. I’d enter a password but it never even let me do that. I tried to connect to my wifi and it wouldn’t connect.

    Obviously this is because the host system changed and the TPM isn’t there anymore, but still frustrating to not be able to use the laptop offline just the same. I ended up just formatting and installing Endeavor on that, too. This was just where I finally realized that “reboot” means “give me the option to change boot order this time”, because I couldn’t get back into BIOS after it booted to windows.

    [–] themelm@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Only reason I use windows is for work. All the software for industrial controls stuff is windows only. But luckily its so shit at being updated that I still have to keep a windows xp VM around for some stuff so hopefully I'll be retired before I need to use windows 11+

    [–] unknown@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I got my CNC router working via wine about 2 years ago. Was very happy when it not only worked but worked well. Thought I was going to need to setup a dedicated windows PC for it but I can just use my workshop/tinkering laptop.

    [–] themelm@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

    I still might try and use Linux as a host for the windows VMS but I'd probably still need to keep a dual boot around can't risk not having it in case of something that wouldn't work with USB pass through.