this post was submitted on 18 Dec 2023
129 points (99.2% liked)

News

23301 readers
3802 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Johnny Depp got pulled from the Pirates series didn't he? That seemed to be murkier but also higher profile. They also fired James Gunn. I think it depends heavily on behind the scenes conversions. Maybe mandated counseling or something. A lot of people have gotten second chances. Gina Carano got canned but they tried pretty hard not to until it became clear she wouldn't shut up. I think JM has been laying relatively low.

I could see it going either way, but I've heard they've changed course on some of the plotting to reduce the importance of Kang.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

James Gunn and Gina Carano are very interesting opposite scenarios.

James Gunn was basically a hit piece before getting canned by one person superseding everyone else and eventually reinstated when everyone settled down.

Gina just made a target out of herself and got to keep her job because of one person vouching for her and eventually she was fired when she made it clear she wasn't going to stop.

Truth is each instance is different and the people deciding are different each time.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

James Gunn being an edgelord dipshit when he was younger was already known. He owned up to it when he was attacked and he had already previously owned up to it and put the effort in to "do better" as it were for years by that point. This is why the cast and crew as well as people all throughout hollywood came to his defense.

Gunn's firing is basically the ultimate counter to "Do one bad thing and people will ruin your life for it". he did a lot of bad shit but he had demonstrated he was not the same person saying that stupid shit and people defended him for it. It is the same reason that Robert Downey Jr has had such a massive career resurgence after his troubled years.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Johnny Depp got pulled from the Pirates series didn’t he

Didn't they stop making them before everything started coming out about him? And getting rid of people like James Gunn and John Lassiter work more for Disney because they work behind the scenes. They are more replaceable. But like I said, they didn't seem to mind replacing Terrence Howard. And Don Cheadle is a better actor anyway, so it worked out pretty well.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Terrence Howard wasn't the focus of an entire phase the way Majors is/was supposed to be. A sidekick is a lot easier to replace than a big-bad who's already been in several franchise pieces.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Terrance Howard also priced himself out. That was as much his decision as Disney's. I don't know. I guess we'll find out soon. I like JM as an actor but these allegations can blow back on companies seen as taking the wrong side, and here he was found guilty. There are some really hard conversations going on behind the scenes, for sure.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Allegedly Disney never made it clear that they reduced his role. So he was negotiating based on old info. No idea how accurate that is though.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In Depp's case there wasn't a lot of nuance. He was a victim but also the bad guy, he and Heard were both the villains.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

You're right they were in a mutually destructive relationship. Probably best to get as far away from both as possible. But god damn team Johnny vs team Amber was the hot story for about five fucking minutes. That was a firecracker at the time.