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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 187 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (148 children)

Dumb. Federation is how we escape from every cloud-based service being a dictatorship of the person who owns the platform. That includes federating with privately own orgs to provide them an exit.

By all means make good tools to allow individual users to block Threads (or other private instances ruled by amoral coporations), but doing it at instance level is just dumb.

edit: also, number of instances doesn't matter. Number of daily active users matters. Most users are on mastodon.social, mastodon.cloud, lemmy.world, hachyderm.io, lemmy.world, etc. And all of those are federating. The only large instance that is not federating with threads is mas.to

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

If you just want a hassle-free way to view as much content as possible, there are instances that are federated with pretty much everyone - just have to do a little research. If you want to guarantee keeping post history AND have absolute control over what you can see, you're gonna have to put in the work to make your own instance.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also -

them: it's ridiculous they aren't listening to the user

the instance: held a vote and the majority voted to defederate

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca -5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Have you looked into the process of actually spinning up your own Mastodon instance? It's not exactly the good old days of throwing together a LAMP box and installing PHPBB on it.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

I appreciate your commitment to this meme. I don't exactly agree with you, but hilarious nonetheless.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've done it and it's not a whole lot harder than that. The additional steps are:

  • Install dependencies - exact commands are provided in the instructions for Debian-based systems
  • Create a more complex web server configuration file - for which a template is provided
  • Set up systemd services to start it at boot - templates are provided

It is harder than managed hosting where you might only need to create a database user in a web control panel and upload files for PHPBB, but there's managed hosting available for Mastodon.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

but there’s managed hosting available for Mastodon.

FWIW, I recall when elestio announced that they were offering managed hosting for kbin, and that they already did managed hosting of lemmy instances, and and I'm sure that there is managed hosting for at least lemmy available elsewhere.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it require a whole mess of Docker instances and some kind of orchestrator to host? Or is it easier to stand up on a single server now? I haven't looked into it in a year or so.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

It does not. I set mine up more than a year ago and followed these instructions.

People already familiar with Ruby on Rails will not find any surprises there; Mastodon's hosting requirements are typical of a Rails app.

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