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Escaping Xi’s China by paddleboard: ‘I rushed into the water and thought if they catch me, they catch me’ (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 10 months ago by tardigrada@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just because one state is also shitty to dissenters does not mean another state isn't. They don't cancel each other out.

Dissident is pretty vague, probably on purpose. As much as I dislike the US government, I can say the government here is shit and not get hauled to jail for the most part. The same is not necessarily true in China

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

is it?

how is the us treating communists, smaller trade unionists, palestine supporters, blm people and such over there? those people have sharp criticism and are the true dissenters to varying degrees.

ask one of those what could happen to them if they get singled out as a leader or something. i judge by actions not words.

e: immigrants too

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you 100% missed the point. No matter how the US treats people, China can also treat people terribly. They are not mutually exclusive.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You were saying the US is better, all I said is that it isn't.

One of them never sponsored a coup in my and most of my neighbouring countries.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

I did imply the US is better, and I probably should not have. And even in that I did not mean the government doesn't do horrific things. Probably should not have made the comparison TBH. That doesn't mean China doesn't also do horrific shit, even if the way they do it is different