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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Alternate future Admiral Janeway doesn't qualify.

Prime timeline Admiral Janeway might qualify if only because we never see her do anything.

[–] ummthatguy@startrek.website 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

On Prodigy, she sees the young crew for their potential and helps them move forward. Never would I count alt Janeway. Her taking out a large portion of Borg with a virus is pretty badass, though.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's the thing...we've seen that the time cops will show up and set things "right" whenever it suits them. No one stepped in to stop Admiral Janeway. Having her take out the Borg was intentional. I'd say that means she counts.

[–] ummthatguy@startrek.website 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

By her actions, perhaps. Her demeanor and attitude, at least early in the finale, show her callousness and disregard borne of what she perceived as failure to bring everyone (mostly Seven) home. She had forgotten the family she built through their shared hardship. Prime Janeway had the advantage of seeing what she could become and took actions that would go on to make her not qualify as a "badmiral."

edit: Also, the time "boyscouts" are an ineffectual and useless branch. Had we gotten a more fleshed out Temporal ~~Civil~~ Cold War, I might say otherwise.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago

In Strange New Worlds when the time cop tells La’an that she can’t talk with anyone about what happened and then just pisses off back to the future. Surely the fact she’s now incredibly traumatised, with no potential for therapy in her timeline, could have a hugely damaging effect? As an agency, it’s their job to fix the timeline, so surely they have psychologists for things like this right? Or are they telling her that her future is that inconsequential to the timeline that it doesn’t matter? Because that’s pretty messed up. She picked up the pieces when your man screwed up, schedule her some damn time therapy!

Sorry for the rant, I just watched this ep for the first time a couple weeks back and I’m still fuming over that smug prick of a time cop 😤

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 points 10 months ago

pretty sure admiral Janeway gives Captain Picard orders to Romulus in Insurrection, and that sounds as something dammit.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, isn’t alternate timeline Janeway the prime timeline Janeway, and only after temporal interference do we get the final Janeway?

[–] ummthatguy@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

Eh, it's wibbly-wobbly, timey-whimey. Best not to think about it too much.