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[–] Medatrix@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I mean the fact that he had a license accidentally let it lapse then was able to get it back doesn't change the fact that he was and is a professional engineer.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

Yes but during that period he didn't have a license.

Without a doubt it's someone on a vendetta against him, but those regulations aren't weird, hidden ones.

If you call yourself a professional engineer, that's a protected title and you must actually be a professional engineer. Part of being a professional engineer is paying dues to the organization in your area.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That's not how we use language. If he took a vacation in another state, called himself a professional engineer, never went home and joined the new states engineering org, he wouldn't be wrong calling himself PEng before he joined the new org.

A retired doctor is still a doctor if somebody needs one on a plane.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

When it comes to titles like this that are considered protected, it is actually how they work.

In your example, he isn't allowed to use that title in the new state until he's joined their organization (or they have an agreement with his original state)

As an extreme example for why the timing does matter, If he was licensed properly for 1 year, then let it lapse but continued to do design work as an engineer for 25 years, and then relicensed himself for one last year before retiring, the work he did during that period of being unlicensed isn't covered, and the board of engineers would go after him for that.

For what it's worth, there are specific provisions in the laws to allow retired people to continue using the title P.Eng with a "Retired" tag added onto it.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just read the opinion. He was allowed to practice engineering under an exception and never joined the org.

Then he started critiquing work, and opposing council tried to negate his analysis by saying, hey you can't practice engineering.

So the title isn't that protected, but various people tried to make it seem like it would be, and a greater court decided that infringes his rights.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're looking at the original article. This whole series of comments has been spawned off a discussion about a different case, in which the person did join the organization, then let his license lapse.

In the original, I agree. He never required a license because of their own regs( though it appears that also means he couldn't call himself a professional engineer, so the title itself is protected, he was just exempt from needing the license to do the industrial work he was doing). He is then totally within his rights to use that knowledge and pass himself off as a subject matter expert in the same field he worked for X years, and the board just got pissy. Glad it was overturned for him.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

My mistake, I was checking if he actually used it in the context of practicing engineering, and he didn't there was a biography on his blog and some other slide.

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