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[–] hackris@lemmy.world 107 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Tesla’s reasoning for going away with a method universally used for signaling turn for decades is that it enables them to remove a physical part, the stalk, and it believes activating a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving.

Why the hell do billionaires keep laughing in our faces? I swear every time one of them or their companies opens their mouth, it's like they're making fun of us, the poor people.

"We care about your privacy" — (they don't) "a turn signal will soon be unnecessary" etc.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 55 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving

That's like not including a stick for the manual transmission, because the automatic one is just around the corner.

I wish I possessed this kind of optimism in my daily life :D

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I enjoy driving stick, but stick will likely not last forever. We will not be able to burn fossil fuels for that much longer in the grand scheme of things. Electric vehicles usually have a single speed transmission, so there are literally no gears to change. Perhaps there may be an alternative fuel vehicle that still has multiple speed transmission, in which case stick could still exist, though how many car manufacturers would make them?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably no one, but there is nothing preventing from enthusiasts from hooking an electric drive motor up to a traditional manual transmission just to be perverse. I would.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What would the manual transmission do? Unless you literally mean it doesn't impact the cars driving and is just there for you to move around. Electric vehicles are not changing gears, so there are no gears to hook up a manual transmission to

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It would give you a manual transmission driving experience. Nothing more.

(There are no gears in an internal combustion engine, either. At least not in the context you're thinking of. The gears are in the transmission. That's why anyone in the Commonwealth calls it a "gearbox.")

[–] Globulart@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Even in petrol cars automatic transmissions are more common than manual for new cars now. Automatic has just become better and better, and there's just very little reason to have a manual these days.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

it believes activating a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving.

Okay, but self driving hasn't happened yet and still faces significant problems. Removing a turn signal for this is like smoking constantly because you think cancer will be cured in the future.

Plus it breaks one of the unspoken rules of new designs. You never take away functionality, you only add it.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

And worse is that people have been complaining about the lack of buttons and knobs for some time already.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Man, the other day I saw an entire row of prime spots free in a packed parking lot... "electric vehicles only" parking.

So rich people parking... Cool. This feels great.

[–] 1371113@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Get a used leaf and park there.

[–] psud@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Where I have driven the chargers are always in the furthest corner of the carpark