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[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Easy access to arms WITHOUT rigour, training and monitoring leads to savage atrocities. Some clowns will highlight European countries with a similar gun ownership rate, but then fail to understand why we don't have those same atrocities.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can save a pro-gun cultist the effort and just fill in this comment chain in advance:

Cultist: "Shall not be infringed"

Sane people: "Well regulated"

Cultist: "Well regulated doesn't mean subjected to regulations like background checks and not hitting your wife, it means well-functioning, like a watch

Sane people: "It's not that either. Your militia has no training or physical fitness standards, may never had to demonstrate safe and competent handling of their weapon and has an open contempt for the chain of command"

Cultist: "No but its a mental health problem"

Sane people: "Okay, sounds like gun owners should be have to undergo a mandatory mental health assessment before buying guns then"

Cultist: "If you try and make me prove I'm not a dangerous extremist I'll kill you".

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That, and pretty much everyone is for some degree of infringement, they just don't want themselves to be infringed.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

Oh, so you're okay with a recently released from jail gang-member living next door being allowed to legally buy a full auto 50 cal, or a grenade launcher?

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately that doesn't work any more. The people who are still staunchly pro-gun after the last two decades of violence often just say "yes, I support convicted felons buying grenade launchers and mortars".

They're confident it will never be anyone they care about getting killed because they only care about themselves. To them, an armed gang member next door is just a get out of jail free card waiting to be murdered with their cool gun.

This will undoubtedly upset some gun toting lunatic who will want to claim they care about their family and that's why they have guns, but that's just more exceptionalism -- every child that killed themselves with a gun or murdered their classmates had a parent who thought it would never be them.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

fail to understand why we don't have those same atrocities.

Training, or perhaps not living in a hopeless shithole?

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I don't disagree, but y'all don't own nearly as many guns as Americans. I think you already highlighted why - in most civilized countries you have actually do some work to get a gun and have more legal responsibility than just "oops little Timmy got my gun again, that's not your pacifier big guy I don't know why he likes this thing so much let's put that back over here on the nightstand."