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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 139 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Please! For the love of God! Get rid of tipping!

I hate tipping! As the consumer I should not be responsible for proving a living wage for someone else's employees!

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was going to say this but fear of mass downvotes kept me quiet. Glad I'm not the only one. I've worked for tips but I'd rather just work for a reasonable wage instead, remove the guesswork and chances for abuse.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

as a European I have to say both the Tipping culture and the not showing the full price in stores with VAT included is just mindblowing.

It's literally a culture of hiding true costs, weird af.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hotels too. The advertised price is never accurate because their stupid resort fees.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What now? First I'm hearing of this. How much extra?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Again, it's prevalent in the US market, not sure about others. They advertise say $199 / night, but when you go to check out, there's something like a ~$35- $50 /night resort fee to "pay for amenities like WiFi/ gym /pool". You can't reject paying the fee, so your hotel room is actually like 25% higher than advertised.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One way or another, you're paying those employees wage. One of them doesn't get taxed or advertised is all.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no. All tips are supposed to be reported to the IRS. Whether they are or not is not really relevant. What really matters is that the customers aren’t forced to do an owners job. If an owner needs their customers to prop up their employees then the owners shouldn’t be in business.

I used to make $2.35/h when I was in the service industry. Without my customers I would’ve been fucked. What’s worse is on a slow night, I really did get fucked.

[–] spader312@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I used to make $2.35/h when I was in the service industry. Without my customers I would’ve been fucked. What’s worse is on a slow night, I really did get fucked.

I think that should be the point, employees should not be taking on the risk of a business doing poorly. That's the business owner's responsibility and risk, to be mitigated by them. Not screwing over a waiter because it was a slow night. Or because they were unlucky to work a tuesday night over a busy Saturday night.