Transitive defederation -- defederating from instances that federate with Threads as well as defederating from Threads -- isn't likely to be an all-or-nothing thing in the free fediverses. Tradeoffs are different for different people and instances. This is one of the strengths of the fediverse, so however much transitive defederation there winds up being, I see it as overall as a positive thing -- although also messy and complicated.

The recommendation here is for instances to consider #TransitiveDefederation: discuss, and decide what to do. I've also got some thoughts on how to have the discussion -- and the strategic aspects.

(Part 7 of Strategies for the free fediverses )

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

im not going to get into this, again, as im sick of asking the same thing and no one ever having a valid response so ill just state it.

theres no technical reason to think meta can overtake the ap protocol and substantially alter it in any appreciable way. that they have a federating server in threads is not some crazy threat unless your own shit becomes dependent on that federation. if it does, its on the instance owner not threads.

as it is, there is zero reason to not federate with threads other than substantial resource use (flooding) and righteous indignation.

i run a public instance, and as soon as threads interferes with it, i will nip that shit in the bud. until then, i plan on providing an offramp for those trapped in metas walled garden.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't federate with any instance that openly houses hate groups. Threads houses hate groups.

There's a reason for you.

It may not be enough of a reason for you, but that's a whole different thing to there being "zero reason not to federate"

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you got the righteous indignation part down pat.

its work to block instances. im not going to operate like that. im treating AP like email. i dont block facebooks SMTP, i dont block Nestle email.. im not going to block their AP.

i am providing assistance to humans wanting to leave the walled garden. you are not capable of that, apparently.

but you do you. thats what its all about.

edit: btw none of this is technical in nature. its just political. i stand by the fact there is no technical reason to not federate.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The fact that you equate vulnerable communities blocking instances that house hate movements that target them with righteous indignation is genuinely scary...