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[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mobs of pro-Hamas students and faculty have marched by the hundreds through Harvard's campus, shouting vile antisemitic slogans and calling for death to Jews and Israel

I’m sorry, what? I have a hard time believing that. Hundreds of pro-Hamas students? Do they mean pro-Palestinian maybe? Which; let’s be clear is not the same thing.

So how about we make sure everyone feels safe on campus. Muslims, Jewish people, Palestinians, black people, Asians, gay people, every single human being. There is enough hate in the world as is, we don’t need to keep adding fuel to the fire.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, what? I have a hard time believing that. Hundreds of pro-Hamas students? Do they mean pro-Palestinian maybe? Which; let's be clear is not the same thing.

At this point the debate has gone off the rails:

In November 2023, the Anti-Defamation League classified protest events led by groups including Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow as "anti-Israel", adding the protests to a database documenting rising antisemitism in the US. ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt labelled the organizations "hate groups".

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Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow are left-leaning U.S.-based Jewish organizations.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Many of the fiercest critics of Israeli policy in this country are Jewish. Noam Chomsky, Judith Butler, Naomi Klein. In November, Bernie Sanders demanded "an immediate end to Israel’s indiscriminate bombing, which is causing an enormous number of civilian casualties and is in violation of international law."

All of these Jewish people are antisemites according to the ADL.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Don’t forget Norm Finkelstein. His parents survived the Holocaust and lost most of their family then.

He has been calling Israel an apartheid state and the treatment of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank a genocide for decades now.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Many of the fiercest critics of Israeli policy in this country are Jewish. Noam Chomsky, Judith Butler, Naomi Klein...Bernie Sanders

Also Amy Goodman from Democracy Now!, Medea Benjamin from Code Pink, U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), and the late Daniel Ellsberg.