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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your link to the definition of 'avoid'?

I avoided nothing. I addressed the issue directly.

The USA kills civilians.

Israel does at a much faster rate. A genocidal one in fact.

But that does not give any creedence to the notion the USA is innocent.

QED JFC

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now you're moving the goalpost. Dude, just admit your wrong. The US goes to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

have you ever seen the viral sensation "collateral murder"?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have actually. I also saw the unedited version WikiLeaks was really hoping nobody would see.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

why would they hope no one saw more?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because it was a running gun fight. The Army also released it's After Action report showing there was in fact RPGs there. Now I'm not saying the reporters were bad guys, but they clearly embedded with an anti coalition militia. That carries the same risk of getting killed as embedding with coalition forces.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you're saying embedded journalists are civillians, but the us doesn't try to avoid killing them? seems like you owe the other commenter an apology.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course we try to avoid killing them. But there's no way that Apache crew can discern them from the militia they embedded in. They're not super human.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if they wanted to avoid killing them, they could just not-pull the trigger. but tehy didn't try not to kill them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Again. There was no way to discern them from the militia. The Army is not going to just let themselves get shot at because there "might be" a reporter on the other side.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

seems to me they had the option to stay away from that conflict entirely, but the commander in chief decided that it was ok to endanger civillians with his adventurism. staying the fuck home wuold have meant that they avoided killing civillians. they chose not to do that.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree. That would have prevented civilian deaths at the hands of Americans. Soldiers don't have that choice though. They do the best they can with the situation at hand.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

so are you going to apologize to them or go on pretending you didn't lie?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm just going to start mocking you and your absurd reductionism.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i'd encourage you to find the strength of character to apologize to them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh no. Not the "strength of character" from a keyboard warrior. Whatever will I do with my life?!?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

no matter how you characterize me, you lied to that user, and an apology is owed to them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The guy who started out with a whataboutism? Lmao nope.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago

what they said is true.