this post was submitted on 17 Jan 2024
212 points (99.1% liked)

News

23296 readers
5238 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I understand why you would think that, but I sincerely think its a different type of experience.
Forums and BBS were not bottomless content like tiktok Facebook insta, YouTube. Whenever you refresh the page new content shows up. And the content is designed to be bite sized - 15 seconds for tiktok, youtube shorts... and they are mostly passive. You barely interact with them usually you like, share, whatever and move on.

TV is the worst because it is 100% passive.

Reading a book is mostly passive but requires your imagination.

Some games are engaging and require skill or creativity.

Forums encourage conversation. If there was no conversation on something that got posted - be it text or a link to a video or whatever - then the thread would disappear into the back pages.

But I'm open to the possibility that I'm being an old geezer romanticizing the past. I'm not immune to that phenomenon.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By this criticism I believe music would also fit as you're passive.

Here's the quick and dirty of it: Entertainment is about exploiting our brain and short-form-video is just the new thing.

Why the hell would I be bothered by SFV and not care about diets that do way worse for the health of an individual?

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, I consider music closer to reading because it often requires interpretation of lyrics and has no accompanied visuals usually.

Regardless, I can admit that for me and my problems with SFV it is largely a gut and emotional feeling that I have against them. I feel like it is much less mentally stimulating than most other online entertainment but I don't have any solid data for backing that up.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I don't think everyone who listens to music is engaging with the music. People will be shocked that Rage Against the Machine is political despite listening to them for years.

My issue with SFV is entirely with the content that is more popular in the medium. I've seen SFV that promotes learning in bite-sized chunks and I've seen some that are entirely wholesome and uplifting. Just like some people can watch Jersey Shore, read Atlas Shrugged, or listen to mumble rap and I will consider that a waste.

I don't think I have the right to tell everyone what they can do with their time. So I don't support the condemnation of something just because I don't approve of it.