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  • Developers of Cities: Skylines 2 have noticed a growing toxicity in their community, which is affecting engagement and creativity.
  • The CEO of Colossal Order expressed concern about the negative impact of toxicity on the team and the community.
  • The developers still encourage helpful criticism from the community but ask for it to be constructive and kind.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Simulation speed grinds to a halt as soon as you slapdown a few high density buildings. You basically have to but endless low density sprawl or your city will grind to a halt. I think the Media team of colossal order deserve the toxicity they are receiving.

[–] ombremad@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whatever complaint you got about the game, saying that anyone « deserves toxicity » is not the clever take you think it is.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I scammed hundreds of thousands of people how dare they post mean comments on my works social media.

[–] ombremad@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you were scammed, go to court. If you need to grasp on any excuse to leash out a shitty online behaviour, fix your life.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If they are hurt by comments on the internet then they shouldn't be a social media manager.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So because their job means interacting with the community that means they customers are allowed to go ham and be total assholes? That's like saying that just because you work retail you shouldn't be upset by customers being dicks.

It'll absolutely happen anyway due to the nature of humans, and having a thick skin will help you cope with working a job like that, but that doesn't mean the customers should be acting that way and that we should just normalize and enable that behavior just because that's the way it is. It just perpetuates the problem.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you're working retail and your job is to deal with customers I highly doubt your boss will let you withdraw communication with your customers because some of them were verbally mean.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Retail usually calls the cops and bans customers who threaten or scream at employees, which is the real world version of withdrawing communication.

I get your fee fees are hurt because a video game was not perfect, but people flinging shit like caged monkeys get shut down in most jobs. Its not excusable just because muh vidya gaem

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

CO can ban them from posting on their forums if they take it to far.

The comments are tame as fuck compared to most community/developer interactions.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

....... You think this primarily happens on their forums? Do they even have forums?

Do you know what email is?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can block emails as well. You can moderate your steam forums and youtube comment section and Twitter replies. I can't think of a single place where CO is interacting with the community that they can't block/ban users who are mean.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Youre intentionally missing the point so hard Im starting to think youre one of the losers sending them death threats

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's your point then? Of course they have forums Steam and paradox forums and reddit are the main places to interact with Colossal order. CO has never said they are getting death threats so I don't know where you get that from.

It seems that you're getting misinformed by game journalist blogspam. CO is mad that the mood on their forums is sour and they are getting called out for releasing an undercooked buggy game for full price after months of misleading marketing. Everytime they post an update the comments are filled with sour posts complaining about real issues that have still not been fixed 3 months later.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 9 months ago

If you get 10,000 death threats from 10,000 individual accounts, blocking or banning them does fuckall. You still recieved 10,000 death threats. And..... Ive fuckin seen the twitter posts dude, I dont need CO to tell me about them. They likely arent mentioning them to prevent the risk of increasing their volume.

But, again, you are talking like a kiwifarm reject, so Im sure youre one of the people sending this "fanmail"

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 0 points 9 months ago

I mean, you're right, that's just life™, but that's still fundementally fucked up. For profit companies have to do that because they want everyone's dollar, and if that means you're a better fit for a job because you can deal with people being awful, then... It's a shame we've ended up in that position, societally.

[–] ombremad@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If you can’t behave in a respectful manner, you shouldn’t interact with someone else.

See? I can do this too.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't agree with that at all. There's plenty of people I don't respect and I will not treat respectfully yet I shouldn't be barred from interacting with these people. Especially if they are a public figure with the power to influence change.

The president of the United States repealed row v wade. Should everyone opposed to that refrain from toxicity. I think they are well within their right to kick up a stink, be angry and make their voices heard.

[–] ombremad@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Oh, you don't agree with me? Really? My heart is broken.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for your honest thoughts on it and your experience. Even though CO media team doesn't deserve toxicity imo, (I think Paradox management deserves it more), a lot is genuine feedback about people's poor experiences with the game.

I pushed through a 100k pop play through at 10fps 720p by the end before I upgraded my PC. That would be unacceptable for most but I had fun.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 9 months ago

I had fun as well and got to 160k. I tried to reduce population as much as I could but my city was way to developed.

For me there is no replay value until more is added. The cities are really plain and a lot of the default assets look like crap. I know it will be fixed in the future but CO has this attitude that we should be greatful for the shit that was released and are happy to keep us waiting months for basic fixes and features.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have so many high density buildings in my city and no appreciable FPS or slowdown issues.

How does your computer compare to recommended specs?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago

I've got 160k people. Playing on 1080p with a 2070s and a ryzen 5600x

Simulation speed is prioritized and graphics is turned down to medium but the game runs at about 0.8 to 1x speed.