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    [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, you really are aggressive and hostile for no reason. You can use Ubuntu all you want. But don't go around spreading lies just because you are too cognitively challenged to change your DE without breaking the OS. Most people are fine making a fresh install with the DE they want to try preinstalled and it works fine 100% out of the box. It's trying to make two different DE live on the same system at the same time that is only partially supported and thoroughly discouraged by every single DE developer. Most of the time installing a new DE on a system and uninstalling the old one is a pretty straightforward, although dirty process. Guess who is particularly bad and incompatible with that process? Ubuntu. It has the worst support for alternative DEs, because Ubuntu is not the benchmark for squat shit anymore. Use a real end user distro, and you'll be able to change DE to your heart's content without issue.

    [–] Mikina@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

    I'm only on Linux for a few months (as a daily driver, always used headless servers before that), and I'm almost certain that my Fedora install came with both KDE and Gnome in Wayland and X11 flavors pre-installed out of the box, and I could just choose between them at login screen. Or am I wrong, and I do I just not remmeber installing the other manually? I mean, that's also possible, it's been a while.

    [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Because advice like this is an enormous waste of time. Calling people dinosaurs for using Ubuntu instead of KDE is a pretty out there take. The only more modern option is arch based distros like Manjaro but since every programming tutorial assumes you have APT and are running Ubuntu I don't see much of a reason to deviate from that.

    [–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    it seems you should be using debian or distros based on it. ubuntu, as far as i know, uses apt as a mirror to snap, so as long as the tutorials youre following letter for letter arent too recent, you really should be using debian for actual apt packages, since ubuntu used those a couple of years ago.

    you can also use fedora or arch, but it seems you dont want to check what package youre downloading at all, and just want to follow tutorials blindly.

    [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    People here are under the illusion that a DE changes nothing about the base OS. It seems like those people have never actually been using their OS.

    [–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    the DE doesnt change anything in the base os unless you count its packages and rare incompatibilities as noticeable changes.

    what it does change is the visual experience.

    [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

    No it installs and uninstalls a ton of packages and often relies on specific versions of certain packages. This is like saying Ubuntu isn't different from Debian.

    Some DE's even use Wayland which will break a ton of software such as OpenCV.

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    Dude...I build my desktops from a bare Debian text only terminal by installing it piece by piece and only what I need. This current install has bee running fine for three years and I have no issues installing and configuring anything you can on Ubuntu.

    This is a skill issue on your part, not an OS issue. At a certain point, if you've been using it enough, the distro literally doesn't matter anymore. Linux is Linux is Linux.

    [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

    That's like saying that you run Gentoo but you don't even have the street cred of running Gentoo.