this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2024
245 points (99.2% liked)

News

23259 readers
3390 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Each shot would be completely personalized to the patient.

...

Wagner's TLPO cancer vaccine has been tested in hundreds of patients with advanced forms of melanoma in Phase 2 clinical trials.

The most recent data presented at an academic conference showed nearly 95% of people given only the vaccine were still alive three years after starting treatment and 64% were still disease-free. Among the most advanced forms of melanoma, disease-free survival after three years for people with stage III disease was 60% in the vaccine-only group, compared to about 39% in the placebo group. Disease-free survival for those with stage IV disease was about 68% in the vaccine-only group, and zero in the placebo group.

The most common side effects were redness or pain at the injection site, fever and fatigue after the injection – similar to other vaccines that stimulate an immune response.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MxM111@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Placebo group for stage 3 cancer? How does it work? Is not it unethical?

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While I don't know the case for this specific study, but you're assuming the vaccine is safe and works.

Generally though if it is shown to help they'll get it asap

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Disease-free survival for those with stage IV disease was about 68% in the vaccine-only group, and zero in the placebo group.

The placebo group will not be getting the vaccine.

Edit: The people not in Stage 4, may well get the advanced treatment.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, and I thought there are alternative treatments in case of melanoma. Not giving those is clearly unethical. Stage 4 melanoma 5 year survival rates are not that bad, and clearly more than zero with treatment.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

You are right about the survival rates.

The paper is short, but a number of the patients had prior immunotherapy treatments (not all, and the rates are broken out by treatment, not by cancer stage.) The paper also does not seem to include the 0% survival rate for the Stage IV placebo group. (Or I missed it.)

I am making up things, but it is possible that other treatments had already failed and this was a "hail marry" for the Stage IV people.

load more comments (2 replies)