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Food Not Bombs trial rescheduled after too many jurors objected to $500 fine for feeding homeless (www.houstonchronicle.com)
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Too many of the potential jurors said that even if the defendant, Elisa Meadows, was guilty, they were unwilling to issue the $500 fine a city attorney was seeking, said Ren Rideauxx, Meadows' attorney.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's the rub though, I don't trust people to decide what the bad laws are given which ones they've done it for previously.

The bad laws that get nullified tend to be a lot less impactful than the good ones that get nullified,

The practical application of it historically has convinced me that nullification is something akin to the death penalty,

There are without a doubt cases where it ought to be applied, but I do not at all trust my fellow humans to be capable and consistent judges of those circumstances.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t trust people to decide what the bad laws

Do you know how representative democracy works?

but I do not at all trust my fellow humans to be capable and consistent judges of those circumstances

Right but a civil servant in a black dress is trustworthy. Like for example Clarence Thomas.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

First, that assumes I don't think judicial review is a crock of shit, which I do

Second, the legislative process of changing the law with a large body representing the broad national political crossection of opinions regarding how the law should change is far more legit than a bunch of Idaho's good ol' bois getting to decide they rather don't care for the notion of enforcing a law that would prosecute a man for raping a 12 year old because "oh well he's from a good family! We don't wanna ruin his life now do we‽"

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right except evidence is that the law seldom reflects opinion polls. Nice hypothetical btw here is something evidential: the majority of states have rolled out restrictions on abortion in defiance of the voting public in the past year..

When you fix the Supreme Court and when you make the legislative branch perfectly match the will and the demographics of the people I will join your side. Better get started as most of Congress is over 65

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The evidential also points to you advocating the tool racists use to free lynch mob particpants but sure buddy get all morally high and mighty in defense of letting twelve randos apply law of the halo effect.

I'd tell you to get off your high horse but we both know its an overworked ass.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Any other evidence you want to cite from before my parents (they have two grandchildren in their teens now) were born? You know in contrast to the examples I have mentioned that have occurred in the past year?

Yes democracy of the jury doesn't work because a shitty county in a shit state in the 1950s did some shit things. But YOUR Supreme Court and YOUR legislative branch is perfect. For example Tex Cruz and Clarence Thomas.