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Online travel agent allows customers to filter out Boeing 737 Max planes::Kayak customers can exclude Max 9 aircraft after cabin panel blowout on Alaska Airlines flight

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[–] Giooschi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And have you ever seen a bolt fall off a plane you were flying on?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can't say that I have but it is not really comparable since I would notice random ass fucking bolts in my driveway.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the location where your car experiences the most movement and vibrations and is most likely to lose a bolt: parked in your driveway. 🤦‍♀️

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Where are Boeing planes losing bolts now? On the runway.

You work for them or something?

[–] PotjiePig@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What an inane and pointless argument. (All of you)

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

And your comment differs...how exactly?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I called out something stupid you said, so I must be a shill 🙄

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I said nothing stupid. Random bolts are not falling off my car. You are the one coming up with excuses for Boeing

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look. A few incidents happen close together, and everyone loses their damn mind and freaks out, saying they'll never use those aircraft again, even though 99.999% of the time, it's one of the safest ways to travel. It's extremely silly. This shit is a statistical anomaly.

At the end of the day, some of their aircraft have been grounded for investigation, and that's good. This will lead to it being even safer. I hope this also leads to regulatory change, resulting in Boeing no longer being responsible for themselves meeting safety standards.

But good lord people freaking out over a handful of incidences that will almost certainly never happen to them are just appealing to irrational fear.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I saw a cockroach in my kitchen. Killed it. Since I have only seen one I should assume it was a statistical anomaly and there isn't a hundred hidden ones I didn't see.

I have been in industrial/infrastructure way too long. When you see things like this there are problems you aren't seeing. And I find your attitude grossly irresponsible. You don't wait until the problem grows and people start dying in massive amounts before you decide to fix a problem, especially when the problem is tightening a fucking bolt. This isn't some crazy black swan event know one coildnhsve foreseen. It is applying torque for the right amount of time to a bolt.

Boeing has been having issues for a very long time. And it has all been the result of their short term cost only focused structure. Kept cutting corners, kept refusing to invent, kept on outsourcing to save money. And now we are seeing the results of it. Maybe they should go back to make things that fly well instead of being a company that knows how to temporarily inflate their stock price well.

How many more incidents need to keep happening before you will stop hail corporate them?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You don't wait until the problem grows and people start dying

Where did I say this? I said it's good they're being scrutinized. I said hopefully it would lead to better regulation and higher safety standards.

I'm talking about on an individual level, it's ridiculous to appeal to fear and say you're avoiding this thing forever because of a couple rare incidents that almost certainly won't affect you, especially while we're moving in the right direction in regards to overall safety. I hope this series of events results in a crackdown that whips Boeing into shape.

You're discussing in bad faith. Stop it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which one of us is now lying?

"and say you’re avoiding this thing forever"

Did I say that?

You’re discussing in bad faith. Stop it.

In terms of speech you plan to give to Congress when you beg for a bailout I think this can be improved.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm done talking to you. You clearly do not have either the skills or desire to have a level-headed, productive conversation. Cheers mate.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Save your breath for the bailout begging