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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] james_baxter@discuss.online 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think he's trying to justify the project given some of the hate

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 61 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I really don't get why anyone would throw shade at another option being added in. The entire point of the fediverse is decentralization and choice. Having a fully compatible option for users and people wanting to run their own instance is a good thing. Kbin and mbin are an option, and now there'll be a third.

Keeping all the eggs in one basket just isn't a benefit, diversity of choice is. Even if they fuck up sublinks and it sucks, having it there is good. The argument that they should be working on lemmy instead just doesn't hold water. If someone is dissatisfied with a project, they won't be working on it at their best, if they even do keep working on it.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 12 points 9 months ago

I think a common fault people have in general, and especially in open source circles, is to consider everything a zero sum game.

Obviously it's not, and especially not in the Fediverse, but when did reality prevent anyone from being assholes on the internet?

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I mean, it's a mixed bag, right?

Choice is good, but standardization is also good. The fediverse works because everyone unified around one standard. It wouldn't work if everyone did their own thing.

It's good because they're keeping going to be compatible with Lemmy, but for how long? How much pain is that going to cause?

In the end, I'm for it, for the same reason i support federating Threads, more choice for more people in the same space. The risks are largely the same too (although less likely).

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com -1 points 9 months ago

im just not uses to a project thats not even 50% complete, broadcasting it to the general public as if it matters yet.

from a project management pov there are so many risks still on the table, just why would you do that?

i get they want to bring in devs or whatnot ( though this seems absent from the posts), but this blanketing of publicity over a incomplete thing is weird to me. there are plenty of dev channels.

seems like hype-building, which im kinda adverse to

[–] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Has there been any hate? (honestly asking) I didn't catch any of it. I was just confused as to why one would choose Java for a web app, but other than that I welcome any new platform. Thats exactly what makes the fediverse great

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There was a fair amount specifically upset that the creators had not decided to focus their efforts on contributing to lemmy directly. I personally think that's silly as it's not hard to find folks who've tried and had a terrible experience.

[–] jgrim@discuss.online 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People were reaching out to me to try to understand these details so I just made a blog post to just point people to.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Great project! I wish y'all the best

[–] jgrim@discuss.online 4 points 9 months ago
[–] james_baxter@discuss.online 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All I could imagine is that Lemmy devs and others thought they were wasting their time and should contribute to Lemmy. And people didn't like Java as a choice.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] jgrim@discuss.online 4 points 9 months ago

Thanks, me too!

[–] Blaze@discuss.online 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lots of angry comments in the post announcing Sublinks in this community, mostly criticizing Java choice

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

Language snobs will be snobby.

Meanwhile sublinks will enjoy a much much larger potential developer pool; how many people are actually proficient in Rust? It's an awesome language and it's getting more popular, but it's nowhere near the experience base of java.